Message from @Scribblehatch

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2018-08-20 19:54:11 UTC  

would you people here say Antifa is fascist?

2018-08-20 19:54:30 UTC  

I'd say fascism isn't right wing.

2018-08-20 19:54:58 UTC  

That communism, fascism, and nazism are cut from the same cloth

2018-08-20 19:55:20 UTC  

I had a leftie argue that totalirarianism, authoritarianism and facism are 3 different things

2018-08-20 19:55:32 UTC  

i mean, hitler was a **radical centrist** after all

2018-08-20 19:55:35 UTC  

and you guessed it, that fascism implies nacionalism and racism

2018-08-20 19:55:58 UTC  

It's collectivism. Centralized, unquestionable power.

2018-08-20 19:56:19 UTC  

Communism isn't supposed to wind up that way, but it does.

2018-08-20 19:56:57 UTC  

I don't think you can argue about communism without fascism though

2018-08-20 19:57:07 UTC  

unless it's an utopia assuming everyone wants it

2018-08-20 19:57:26 UTC  

Antifa is commie.

2018-08-20 19:57:33 UTC  

Filthy bastard commies.

2018-08-20 19:57:38 UTC  

All of these collectivist movements are utopian in goal

2018-08-20 19:58:08 UTC  

They're all on the bridge to utopia regardless how many planks of the bridge are fucking missing.

2018-08-20 19:58:26 UTC  

the guys I were discussing with didn't deny they were commies. But they denied they were fascists, in every way possible

2018-08-20 19:58:34 UTC  

mfw the fictional society the word "utopia" was based on is now widely recognized as a dystopia 🤔

2018-08-20 19:58:35 UTC  

They dangle the carrot of utopia before a populace to convince them to do things that they would object to otherwise.

2018-08-20 19:58:41 UTC  

utopias don't even work in fiction

2018-08-20 19:58:49 UTC  

Insectopia

2018-08-20 19:59:06 UTC  

"Antifa is facsist" is mostly rhetoric I think
Point being they claim to fight facsism but they're also incredibly authoritarian

2018-08-20 19:59:24 UTC  

Utopias don't work in fiction because they would make the story boring.

2018-08-20 19:59:31 UTC  

Not even that, aidan

2018-08-20 19:59:46 UTC  

if a group advocates for full authoritarianism, I call that fascism. Am I wrong?

2018-08-20 19:59:53 UTC  

'liberals get the bullet, too'

2018-08-20 20:00:32 UTC  

Exactly

2018-08-20 20:00:42 UTC  

Authoritarians seek power to control culture.

2018-08-20 20:00:57 UTC  

Invariably.

2018-08-20 20:01:19 UTC  

It's the easy route for someone willing to get their hands dirty.

2018-08-20 20:01:33 UTC  

Why convince people

2018-08-20 20:01:38 UTC  

Why compromise

2018-08-20 20:01:44 UTC  

fascists seem more chill than antifa

2018-08-20 20:01:52 UTC  

When you can just wild the monopoly on force

2018-08-20 20:01:58 UTC  

@RyeNorth nope hitler was far-right

2018-08-20 20:02:04 UTC  

and yes, he was a socialist

2018-08-20 20:02:11 UTC  

Monopoly on violence

2018-08-20 20:02:16 UTC  

since when is socialism automaticly left-wing?

2018-08-20 20:02:31 UTC  

always?

2018-08-20 20:02:39 UTC  

uh, since the modern definitions of those terms were created

2018-08-20 20:02:40 UTC  

Hitler is regarded as centrist authoritarian by most counts.

2018-08-20 20:03:06 UTC  

Socialism is currently extremely left.