Im only pointing out why these people think that way

you guys are basically saying the same thing

Why I think these people think that way

Yeah

Which is "Since I think I am a useless person, why should I bother putting in any effort"

Its just either harmful nihilism or laziness

Theres genuine cases of depression out there.

I used to be in an incel support server (as in we'd support incels, I wasn't incel)

And so many of them were so self defeating, it was really cyclical

Why do you think they hate "motivation"

Im talking shit like "Its easy just do X"

Or react with hostility to genuine advice

Its the same shit with HAES people sometimes

"I'm worthless and have no friends and I'm always bored."
"Have you tried getting a hobby with useful practical skills? You could make friends at a club, too, you have one common interest."
"I'm too busy and I don't wanna and it's pointless."

the thing with incels that I don't get is... why are they even trying? 😏

Pretend they have something that cant be fixed

most men are avoiding relationships, so it seems weird that a group starts complaining that they aren't getting any

Most incels have mental conditions or bad upbringings that lead them to act... yknow, how they act

they are little bitches

But the problem is they mutually validate

momas boys

So a echo chamber

Yeah

it's easy nowadays to close yourself at home and never get bored

Theres the distinction between people who wallow in depression over failure to meet a mate.

it's what we created

Or people who make the most of their inability.

VERY unhealthy echo chambers

And most of them hate their moms for giving them bad fucking genetics, femoid scum, cry cry masturbate

I kinda get their point a bit

Then how would that explain people who socialize online instead?

Blackpill is retarded, improve yourself, make yourself worth what you're supposedly entitled to

Reminds me of peterson's quote.

Dont compare your today to another person's lifetime

And seek to defeat yesterday's you

I socialise mainly online, I've been a shut-in nerd for years. I was a little incel-y when I was younger, but it's like, with maturity I realised if I treat people like shit and act like a womaniser then I won't get anywhere. People are people, and I had to learn empathy first

After that it's been plain sailing, I'd even say I'm relatively popular IRL now. Not invited to parties on the reg, but I have a good amount of friends who'd be willing to hang out with a day's notice

Good luck convincing a person whos done well convincing himself hes worth nothing.

i was an incel from when i was 0 to when i was 12

I've done it before

Uh probably cause it would be illegal otherwise