Message from @rybus

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2020-04-19 12:34:22 UTC  

@(JUMP) 璟熙帝 are you Chinese?

2020-04-19 13:26:33 UTC  

no i'm just an obsessive anglo who likes china.

2020-04-19 13:28:41 UTC  

Based

2020-04-19 13:29:21 UTC  

So you wanna Qing dynasty back?

2020-04-19 14:09:55 UTC  

New BitChute exclusive video will be out today.

2020-04-19 14:21:04 UTC  
2020-04-19 14:21:15 UTC  
2020-04-19 14:27:01 UTC  

oof

2020-04-19 14:28:09 UTC  

I hope that groypers show up at those "hear questions from undecided voters" events

2020-04-19 14:39:41 UTC  

@Mr.Fisch(炫龙) sorry I had to go, if I were alive as a chinese person in 1912 i would have supported the Qing, in modern day restroation isn't really possible.

2020-04-19 14:41:08 UTC  

I see

2020-04-19 17:41:39 UTC  

Chad

2020-04-19 17:54:27 UTC  

So is collectivism inherently right-wing and individualism left-wing? If so then why is Marxism, a very collectivist economic system, considered left wing and capitalism, a very individualistic economic system, considered right wing?

2020-04-19 17:55:38 UTC  

The issue with a linear dichotomy is that if you dont do it right you get contradictions like that skele

2020-04-19 17:55:43 UTC  

lel

2020-04-19 17:56:10 UTC  

I think a linear dichotomy in general is fake and gay ofc

2020-04-19 17:56:24 UTC  

The 4 quadrants are far better

2020-04-19 17:56:46 UTC  

Different positions kinda manifest themselves in different ways when looking at the political compass.

2020-04-19 17:56:48 UTC  

y-axis: authority vs. liberty
x-axis: left vs. right economics

2020-04-19 17:57:29 UTC  

left economics usually mean more control, either by the state or the people (as literal owners),

right usually means more control by the people (as consumers) and by the corporations/large firms

2020-04-19 17:57:53 UTC  

authority vs. liberty is simple

2020-04-19 17:57:56 UTC  

dont need to explain that

2020-04-19 17:58:38 UTC  

you can (sort of) put ideologies on either axes for the economics

2020-04-19 17:58:41 UTC  

not so much for authority

2020-04-19 17:58:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701492000876265512/image0.jpg

2020-04-19 17:58:50 UTC  

nigbo

2020-04-19 17:59:11 UTC  

Libertarians will champion harbor individualism, but we’ll champion a more collective mindset. But of course the left and right will interpret those things differently. Right wing individualists will champion self sufficiency and such, while left wing individualists tend to champion shit like sexual liberation and such. Right wing collectivists tend to seek advancing their own group’s interests, while left wing collectivists in my view tend to seek material equality amongst all humans.

2020-04-19 17:59:56 UTC  

correct

2020-04-19 18:00:02 UTC  

probably the best way to describe it

2020-04-19 18:00:34 UTC  

authoritarian collectivists (i.e. center on economics) seek a mix of group preference and worker's profit

2020-04-19 18:00:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701492498626904104/IMG_20200409_190638.jpg

2020-04-19 18:00:49 UTC  

Charles Coughlin, Huey Long, and Teddy Roosevelt for example

2020-04-19 18:01:11 UTC  

An lib right would most likely personally oppose LGBT stuff but have a live and let live mindset.

2020-04-19 18:01:25 UTC  

I would still consider that liberal

2020-04-19 18:01:30 UTC  

That is sort of an oxymoron

2020-04-19 18:01:41 UTC  

"live and let live unless you're x"

2020-04-19 18:01:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701492764134604820/image.png

2020-04-19 18:01:52 UTC  

this is how you get publicly pushed and enforced homosexuality

2020-04-19 18:01:55 UTC  

transgenderism