Message from @rybus

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2020-04-19 17:56:46 UTC  

Different positions kinda manifest themselves in different ways when looking at the political compass.

2020-04-19 17:56:48 UTC  

y-axis: authority vs. liberty
x-axis: left vs. right economics

2020-04-19 17:57:29 UTC  

left economics usually mean more control, either by the state or the people (as literal owners),

right usually means more control by the people (as consumers) and by the corporations/large firms

2020-04-19 17:57:53 UTC  

authority vs. liberty is simple

2020-04-19 17:57:56 UTC  

dont need to explain that

2020-04-19 17:58:38 UTC  

you can (sort of) put ideologies on either axes for the economics

2020-04-19 17:58:41 UTC  

not so much for authority

2020-04-19 17:58:46 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701492000876265512/image0.jpg

2020-04-19 17:58:50 UTC  

nigbo

2020-04-19 17:59:11 UTC  

Libertarians will champion harbor individualism, but we’ll champion a more collective mindset. But of course the left and right will interpret those things differently. Right wing individualists will champion self sufficiency and such, while left wing individualists tend to champion shit like sexual liberation and such. Right wing collectivists tend to seek advancing their own group’s interests, while left wing collectivists in my view tend to seek material equality amongst all humans.

2020-04-19 17:59:56 UTC  

correct

2020-04-19 18:00:02 UTC  

probably the best way to describe it

2020-04-19 18:00:34 UTC  

authoritarian collectivists (i.e. center on economics) seek a mix of group preference and worker's profit

2020-04-19 18:00:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701492498626904104/IMG_20200409_190638.jpg

2020-04-19 18:00:49 UTC  

Charles Coughlin, Huey Long, and Teddy Roosevelt for example

2020-04-19 18:01:11 UTC  

An lib right would most likely personally oppose LGBT stuff but have a live and let live mindset.

2020-04-19 18:01:25 UTC  

I would still consider that liberal

2020-04-19 18:01:30 UTC  

That is sort of an oxymoron

2020-04-19 18:01:41 UTC  

"live and let live unless you're x"

2020-04-19 18:01:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701492764134604820/image.png

2020-04-19 18:01:52 UTC  

this is how you get publicly pushed and enforced homosexuality

2020-04-19 18:01:55 UTC  

transgenderism

2020-04-19 18:01:56 UTC  

etc

2020-04-19 18:01:57 UTC  

Well yes because ItS noTT the StatEss rEsponSibiLity to enforce mah social views.

2020-04-19 18:02:02 UTC  

correct

2020-04-19 18:02:05 UTC  

its a gay pov

2020-04-19 18:02:24 UTC  

Even though they’ll cry about the government forcing it down our throats.

2020-04-19 18:05:04 UTC  

Me personally I believe in the collective interests of a nation more, but there is definitely plenty of room for individual freedoms, especially with large cultural agreement, kinda the model the US had before the 1960’s.

2020-04-19 18:08:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/672211350436708356/701494530146304020/image0.jpg

2020-04-19 18:09:17 UTC  

basedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbasedbased

2020-04-19 18:09:20 UTC  

Poland is so based I love it.

2020-04-19 18:09:33 UTC  

the ruling party are still zionist shills

2020-04-19 18:09:42 UTC  

konfedercja is our party

2020-04-19 18:10:21 UTC  

It’s kinda sad to see what the LGBT propaganda has done to people I know. I hate it.

2020-04-19 18:11:54 UTC  

lol orbans goverment banned legal gender change

2020-04-19 18:12:57 UTC  

context in hungarian, both gender and sex means the same thing and there's a birth sex in someones papers

2020-04-19 18:13:04 UTC  

and its now illegal to change it

2020-04-19 18:13:20 UTC  

BASED!!! I wish America would go back to that.

2020-04-19 18:13:43 UTC  

Shouldn’t even have to say based should call it being normal human beings.

2020-04-19 18:20:13 UTC  

@Imperial J. Yay Confederation is amalgamation of conservatives and lolbetarians. They also have zio shills and cryptos. I wouldn't put my money on them.

2020-04-19 18:20:52 UTC  

yeah but the current ruling party is the same