authoritarian collectivists (i.e. center on economics) seek a mix of group preference and worker's profit

Charles Coughlin, Huey Long, and Teddy Roosevelt for example

An lib right would most likely personally oppose LGBT stuff but have a live and let live mindset.

I would still consider that liberal

That is sort of an oxymoron

"live and let live unless you're x"

this is how you get publicly pushed and enforced homosexuality

transgenderism

etc

Well yes because ItS noTT the StatEss rEsponSibiLity to enforce mah social views.

correct

its a gay pov

Even though they’ll cry about the government forcing it down our throats.

Me personally I believe in the collective interests of a nation more, but there is definitely plenty of room for individual freedoms, especially with large cultural agreement, kinda the model the US had before the 1960’s.

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Poland is so based I love it.

the ruling party are still zionist shills

konfedercja is our party

It’s kinda sad to see what the LGBT propaganda has done to people I know. I hate it.

lol orbans goverment banned legal gender change

context in hungarian, both gender and sex means the same thing and there's a birth sex in someones papers

and its now illegal to change it

BASED!!! I wish America would go back to that.

Shouldn’t even have to say based should call it being normal human beings.

@Imperial J. Yay Confederation is amalgamation of conservatives and lolbetarians. They also have zio shills and cryptos. I wouldn't put my money on them.

yeah but the current ruling party is the same

with more zionists and cryptos

Oh, so left-wing collectivism is economic and right-wing collectivism is social. I get it. It kind of makes sense why Oswald Spengler tried the tie Prussian Socialism to the right-wing.

So if the right is about hierarchy and capitalism is about hierarchy why are so many on the far-right like Hitler or Mussolini opposed to capitalism?

@Skeleton capitalism breeds war profiteers

I think the collective/individual dichotomy is a dumb result of 20th century circumstance

@Skeleton capitalism if not controlled introduces lobbies and theird party interests that can and will interfere in countries policies, it leads to worship of money and GDP as end itself for society which in effect is a fertile ground for growth of social pathologies. Small scale capitalism is alright, but large scale capitalism will pretty much always lead to weakening of a nation in their own state. Unless capitalism is under the state's boot (like China) you will always end up on a losing position.

Where the left happened to be communist and the right corporatist

But if you look at say, the French Revolution, the right is absolutist and authoritarian while the left is liberal, and yet they’re both “collectivist” as we would interpret that word today

Ultimately the way I see it the right is about tradition and hierarchy, while left is about progress and equality

All other parameters are functions of environment and historical circumstance

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