Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-07-02 21:58:11 UTC  

Unfortunately it's too powerful to prevent. It is too incredibly valuable and the first company or government to have one will have a massive advantage.

2018-07-02 21:58:44 UTC  

There's a race already underway towards AGI.

2018-07-02 21:59:13 UTC  

But while that's probably something we have to consider in our lifetimes, I'm more concerned about the next 10 years.

2018-07-02 21:59:14 UTC  

Let's consider what you said earlier

2018-07-02 22:00:11 UTC  

You'd said that the vote might have to be revoked to the 'freeloaders'.

2018-07-02 22:00:43 UTC  

also knowladge... we are already tracked... what you learn can be made measurable... anybody read ready player one? Concept of school is in the right direction just few corrections for making money is needed

2018-07-02 22:01:16 UTC  

I want to be clear that I'm not advocating for removing the vote from anyone.

2018-07-02 22:01:37 UTC  

But it may be necessary, right?

2018-07-02 22:02:21 UTC  

I'm just saying that democracy was only viable in societies where the vast majority were producers and wealth disparity was relatively low.

2018-07-02 22:02:42 UTC  

How do you prevent the monopoly in power from finding a way to cull the 'parasites' to prevent losing power?

2018-07-02 22:03:14 UTC  

Otherwise what you end up with is non-producers voting themselves the wealth of the producers, who obviously will use their relative power and resources to resist, and society breaks down.

2018-07-02 22:03:25 UTC  

You don't.

2018-07-02 22:03:50 UTC  

Either way you go in, it's a huge ethical black hole you don't come back out of.

2018-07-02 22:03:57 UTC  

Yep.

2018-07-02 22:04:22 UTC  

And we have to sort this stuff out right now, because the tech is here.

2018-07-02 22:04:31 UTC  

Self-driving cars and trucks, and Google Duplex are going to basically eliminate humans from tens of millions of jobs in the next ten years.

2018-07-02 22:04:50 UTC  

And in those ten years more tech is going to be created which disrupt more sectors.

2018-07-02 22:05:05 UTC  

And there is political deadlock everywhere.

2018-07-02 22:06:15 UTC  

I have a buddy who works in a call center. That's already an untenable job in a wealthy western country.

2018-07-02 22:06:35 UTC  

Now that Google Duplex exists he's got a year or two at best at that job.

2018-07-02 22:08:42 UTC  

As someone who takes pride in work, you're already spelling out nightmare fuel for me...

2018-07-02 22:09:25 UTC  

Work will still exist, but wages are going to go down for everyone in the middle of the IQ distribution.

2018-07-02 22:09:45 UTC  

Like nobody wants to have their arse wiped by a cold metal claw so nurses are still safe.

2018-07-02 22:10:10 UTC  

Speak for yourself

2018-07-02 22:10:22 UTC  

Ditto for therapists and any other job specifically requiring a human touch or human empathy.

2018-07-02 22:10:23 UTC  

heheh

2018-07-02 22:10:49 UTC  

But you're going to have more and more people forced into competing in those sectors so wages are going to go down regardless.

2018-07-02 22:11:15 UTC  

The good news is, is that you can get more nurses, teachers, etc for the same money. So that's an improvement.

2018-07-02 22:11:23 UTC  

Sports will still be safe

2018-07-02 22:11:36 UTC  

and inovations

2018-07-02 22:11:49 UTC  

and op eds

2018-07-02 22:11:53 UTC  

Anything that requires people at the extreme ends of the ability distribution.

2018-07-02 22:12:06 UTC  

As will other branches of entertainment

2018-07-02 22:12:37 UTC  

But if you're not a 130+ IQ person, or a 10/10 model, etc, you're looking at increased competition.

2018-07-02 22:12:39 UTC  

imagine public AI

2018-07-02 22:12:42 UTC  

In fact, without day jobs, these areas would likely thrive.

2018-07-02 22:13:02 UTC  

you make it develope your idea.. and you offer it on the market

2018-07-02 22:14:13 UTC  

This sort of thing would only be remotely possible in a one world government, though, I think...

2018-07-02 22:14:43 UTC  

I think what we're going to see in the near term is increased support for UBI or some sort of income supplementation program like negative income tax, along with societal change taking advantage at the dropping cost of mundane human labor.

2018-07-02 22:15:00 UTC  

i don't think it would be without ai managing all laws and adjusting to basic human rights

2018-07-02 22:15:01 UTC  

Mundane human labor like servants basically.