Message from @Atkins
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I know Rye can be cogent
in VC
somewhat.
And would have incentive to lower the number of people receiving UBI.
Money, especially not backed by the gold standard, is essentially worth a miniscule percentage of the labor in the nation under that currency.
In order to have a UBI, you have to tax the labor to fund it, or print more money - which decreases that percentage of labor claim
So when everything is automated and AI does all the thinking our contribution will be creativity and making problems heh... also, how many ppl this kind of environment can sustain? UBI will probably be free food, basic healthcare, shelter, basic clothing and utilities. For everything extra we will have to earn somekind of "bitcoin".
gold has asighned value same as shells (polinesian islands i think)... you can assighn value to healthy living ... walk is already measurable... it can be mined
Presumably, it would be sustainable to the extent that resources such as metal, stone, necessary farmland, etc can stretch
I'm a free market capitalist at heart but if the trend in automation continues to the point of artificial general intelligence, then we're going to have to start thinking outside the box if we want to avoid dystopia.
Dystopia within the singularity is inevitable.
If that's the path we take.
AI for anything more than amusement is a bad idea.
We should be focusing on how to enhance humans using AI, as opposed to replacing them with it.
Unfortunately it's too powerful to prevent. It is too incredibly valuable and the first company or government to have one will have a massive advantage.
There's a race already underway towards AGI.
But while that's probably something we have to consider in our lifetimes, I'm more concerned about the next 10 years.
Let's consider what you said earlier
You'd said that the vote might have to be revoked to the 'freeloaders'.
also knowladge... we are already tracked... what you learn can be made measurable... anybody read ready player one? Concept of school is in the right direction just few corrections for making money is needed
But it may be necessary, right?
I'm just saying that democracy was only viable in societies where the vast majority were producers and wealth disparity was relatively low.
How do you prevent the monopoly in power from finding a way to cull the 'parasites' to prevent losing power?
Otherwise what you end up with is non-producers voting themselves the wealth of the producers, who obviously will use their relative power and resources to resist, and society breaks down.
You don't.
Either way you go in, it's a huge ethical black hole you don't come back out of.
Yep.
And we have to sort this stuff out right now, because the tech is here.
Self-driving cars and trucks, and Google Duplex are going to basically eliminate humans from tens of millions of jobs in the next ten years.
And in those ten years more tech is going to be created which disrupt more sectors.
And there is political deadlock everywhere.
I have a buddy who works in a call center. That's already an untenable job in a wealthy western country.
Now that Google Duplex exists he's got a year or two at best at that job.
As someone who takes pride in work, you're already spelling out nightmare fuel for me...
Work will still exist, but wages are going to go down for everyone in the middle of the IQ distribution.
Like nobody wants to have their arse wiped by a cold metal claw so nurses are still safe.
Speak for yourself
Ditto for therapists and any other job specifically requiring a human touch or human empathy.
heheh
But you're going to have more and more people forced into competing in those sectors so wages are going to go down regardless.