Message from @athene

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2018-07-02 22:02:42 UTC  

How do you prevent the monopoly in power from finding a way to cull the 'parasites' to prevent losing power?

2018-07-02 22:03:14 UTC  

Otherwise what you end up with is non-producers voting themselves the wealth of the producers, who obviously will use their relative power and resources to resist, and society breaks down.

2018-07-02 22:03:25 UTC  

You don't.

2018-07-02 22:03:50 UTC  

Either way you go in, it's a huge ethical black hole you don't come back out of.

2018-07-02 22:03:57 UTC  

Yep.

2018-07-02 22:04:22 UTC  

And we have to sort this stuff out right now, because the tech is here.

2018-07-02 22:04:31 UTC  

Self-driving cars and trucks, and Google Duplex are going to basically eliminate humans from tens of millions of jobs in the next ten years.

2018-07-02 22:04:50 UTC  

And in those ten years more tech is going to be created which disrupt more sectors.

2018-07-02 22:05:05 UTC  

And there is political deadlock everywhere.

2018-07-02 22:06:15 UTC  

I have a buddy who works in a call center. That's already an untenable job in a wealthy western country.

2018-07-02 22:06:35 UTC  

Now that Google Duplex exists he's got a year or two at best at that job.

2018-07-02 22:08:42 UTC  

As someone who takes pride in work, you're already spelling out nightmare fuel for me...

2018-07-02 22:09:25 UTC  

Work will still exist, but wages are going to go down for everyone in the middle of the IQ distribution.

2018-07-02 22:09:45 UTC  

Like nobody wants to have their arse wiped by a cold metal claw so nurses are still safe.

2018-07-02 22:10:10 UTC  

Speak for yourself

2018-07-02 22:10:22 UTC  

Ditto for therapists and any other job specifically requiring a human touch or human empathy.

2018-07-02 22:10:23 UTC  

heheh

2018-07-02 22:10:49 UTC  

But you're going to have more and more people forced into competing in those sectors so wages are going to go down regardless.

2018-07-02 22:11:15 UTC  

The good news is, is that you can get more nurses, teachers, etc for the same money. So that's an improvement.

2018-07-02 22:11:23 UTC  

Sports will still be safe

2018-07-02 22:11:36 UTC  

and inovations

2018-07-02 22:11:49 UTC  

and op eds

2018-07-02 22:11:53 UTC  

Anything that requires people at the extreme ends of the ability distribution.

2018-07-02 22:12:06 UTC  

As will other branches of entertainment

2018-07-02 22:12:37 UTC  

But if you're not a 130+ IQ person, or a 10/10 model, etc, you're looking at increased competition.

2018-07-02 22:12:39 UTC  

imagine public AI

2018-07-02 22:12:42 UTC  

In fact, without day jobs, these areas would likely thrive.

2018-07-02 22:13:02 UTC  

you make it develope your idea.. and you offer it on the market

2018-07-02 22:14:13 UTC  

This sort of thing would only be remotely possible in a one world government, though, I think...

2018-07-02 22:14:43 UTC  

I think what we're going to see in the near term is increased support for UBI or some sort of income supplementation program like negative income tax, along with societal change taking advantage at the dropping cost of mundane human labor.

2018-07-02 22:15:00 UTC  

i don't think it would be without ai managing all laws and adjusting to basic human rights

2018-07-02 22:15:01 UTC  

Mundane human labor like servants basically.

2018-07-02 22:15:23 UTC  

Illegal Mexican workers are going to start facing competition from legal workers.

2018-07-02 22:15:35 UTC  

Laborers and nannies and gardeners.

2018-07-02 22:16:12 UTC  

And the stay-at-home mom is gonna make a comeback.

2018-07-02 22:16:18 UTC  

if you have nothing to do and you like to be outside you will manage your own garden... many people find it enjoyable

2018-07-02 22:16:37 UTC  

If you can afford to have a garden you have something to do.

2018-07-02 22:16:58 UTC  

The stay at home mom was lost to inflation.

2018-07-02 22:18:21 UTC  

Actually it remains to be seen whether it'll be a stay-at-home mom or a stay-at-home dad that becomes the norm. Men might find themselves out of luck in a job market that places more value on people skills, human touch, and empathy.

2018-07-02 22:19:15 UTC  

sports

2018-07-02 22:20:02 UTC  

There's a saturation point to that market, and nobody wants to pay to see joe average. They want to pay to see people who are 3 standard deviations above the mean.