holy shit

if healthcare is a human right

unfortunately, that is also the route we are going in California for example with mandatory [forced] vaccinations, etc bcuz that is really just a healthcare procedure. "you have a right to decide your healthcare" .... agreed. and the more choices, the better!

then people havea right to choose what they see as the right healthcare

and thus

anti vaxxers are protected

Oh, shit.

I swear tim raising a kid on nothing but essential oils and tofu is healthy

lol

ZQ, drink patchouli.

Well, we have vaccines mandatory here for the public safety. As people who don't vaccinate are potentional health risk to others.

what if my healthcare is that others pay for my entertainment, else i get depressed?

We've had some of that in Canadad too

At least the basic ones that is

kids were suspended by the thousands recently for not being vaccinated

caused a real stink

i see it this way: healthcare is not a human right, but it IS a human right to receive necessary medical treatment

That

kay

naw, i totally disagree with that. mandatory vaccines are a wreckless policy. im not going to get into a debate about this, but there is NO "consensus" about the safety of vaccines are they currently exist.

https://healthfreedomidaho.org/vaccine-court-has-paid-37-billion-in-damages-to-families

no, but they have saved more than they cost

Vaccinations have nearly eradicated certain diseases.

ppl get sick just from taking the vaccines themselves, and they even SPREAD the newly inoculated strain to others

You don't hear of anyone coming down with Polio anymore.

any medication has it's risk, vaccines as well

Should people be allowed to make bad choices for themselves?

if those choices don't affect others

I have never had a serious bout of the flu. I have also never taken a flu shot.

i say yes

if Im vaccinated I dont care if you get polio

I mean

it sucks

but i wont get it

so that risk should not be forced onto others... that is just wreckless! you have a RIGHT to say no!

you don't have the right to put other people in danger!

and that is exactly what you are doing by not getting vaccinated

They're not in danger if they're vaccinated.

i dont get flue shots any more... i was friends w/ a girl who took them ALL THE TIME ... and guess what she was SICK virtually all the time .... she got so regularly sick that should would have to go to the ER from seasonal flues

That's Tim's point.

If we make a Measles vaccine publicly available to those who want to take it