Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-07-07 20:44:45 UTC  

Who is responsible for making good on rights?

2018-07-07 20:45:27 UTC  

Because if the Government has to supply someone healthcare, they should also supply them with means of self-defense.

2018-07-07 20:45:54 UTC  

Both exist for the preservation of one's self.

2018-07-07 20:47:08 UTC  

right, just like the right to self-defense can be considered a "human right" too .... ppl dont really tend to think of "the right to" healthcare, education, housing, etc that way though, as they think they are entitled to have those services provided to them, but just remember that bottom line... *nobody has an inherent right to somebody else's labor*

2018-07-07 20:48:09 UTC  

Mmhmm!

2018-07-07 20:48:28 UTC  

I never gave much though on human rights topic, at most thought something like the housing is stupid to demand but that's about it. This makes quite sense to me.

2018-07-07 20:48:34 UTC  

if health care is a human right then it actually says national heath services cannot be mandatory

2018-07-07 20:48:45 UTC  

the government cant force you to take their healthcare

2018-07-07 20:48:52 UTC  

you have a right to decide your healthcare

2018-07-07 20:49:07 UTC  

This is what I absolutely agree with, too.

2018-07-07 20:50:48 UTC  

It strikes me as covert linguistic warfare.

2018-07-07 20:51:17 UTC  

holy shit

2018-07-07 20:51:27 UTC  

if healthcare is a human right

2018-07-07 20:51:34 UTC  

unfortunately, that is also the route we are going in California for example with mandatory [forced] vaccinations, etc bcuz that is really just a healthcare procedure. "you have a right to decide your healthcare" .... agreed. and the more choices, the better!

2018-07-07 20:51:35 UTC  

then people havea right to choose what they see as the right healthcare

2018-07-07 20:51:36 UTC  

and thus

2018-07-07 20:51:40 UTC  

anti vaxxers are protected

2018-07-07 20:51:45 UTC  

Oh, shit.

2018-07-07 20:52:17 UTC  

I swear tim raising a kid on nothing but essential oils and tofu is healthy

2018-07-07 20:52:49 UTC  

lol

2018-07-07 20:52:51 UTC  

ZQ, drink patchouli.

2018-07-07 20:52:58 UTC  

Well, we have vaccines mandatory here for the public safety. As people who don't vaccinate are potentional health risk to others.

2018-07-07 20:53:05 UTC  

what if my healthcare is that others pay for my entertainment, else i get depressed?

2018-07-07 20:53:06 UTC  

We've had some of that in Canadad too

2018-07-07 20:53:10 UTC  

At least the basic ones that is

2018-07-07 20:53:18 UTC  

kids were suspended by the thousands recently for not being vaccinated

2018-07-07 20:53:20 UTC  

caused a real stink

2018-07-07 20:53:24 UTC  

i see it this way: healthcare is not a human right, but it IS a human right to receive necessary medical treatment

2018-07-07 20:53:34 UTC  

That

2018-07-07 20:53:35 UTC  

kay

2018-07-07 20:54:44 UTC  

naw, i totally disagree with that. mandatory vaccines are a wreckless policy. im not going to get into a debate about this, but there is NO "consensus" about the safety of vaccines are they currently exist.

2018-07-07 20:55:08 UTC  

no, but they have saved more than they cost

2018-07-07 20:55:19 UTC  

Vaccinations have nearly eradicated certain diseases.

2018-07-07 20:55:31 UTC  

ppl get sick just from taking the vaccines themselves, and they even SPREAD the newly inoculated strain to others

2018-07-07 20:55:34 UTC  

You don't hear of anyone coming down with Polio anymore.

2018-07-07 20:55:38 UTC  

any medication has it's risk, vaccines as well

2018-07-07 20:55:49 UTC  

Should people be allowed to make bad choices for themselves?

2018-07-07 20:56:02 UTC  

if those choices don't affect others

2018-07-07 20:56:10 UTC  

I have never had a serious bout of the flu. I have also never taken a flu shot.

2018-07-07 20:56:11 UTC  

i say yes