Message from @n-
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my stance was simple: I'm not a sports fan, but I'm a fan of excellence and monstrous shit talking, I would get into whatever sport they played just to see the game where they lose, or even the one where they almost lose
I love the idea that someone would have the gall to think they could do that
it reminds me of Muhammad Ali, naming himself after the legend, and then producing a similar legend in actuality
To be honest, most people who do sports do it for something they believe in.
Everyone loves a shittalker but they have to back it up on the field
I think it would be disastrous PR for anyone hosting them. Just look at how someone as milquetoast as Jordan Peterson gets treated when he attends an event. These are ACTUAL white supremacists
that's another thing I considered
You are right, I was thinking from the ethics standpoint, not the practicality.
Nah, its the same shit with the kneeling scandal
everyone who followed football before then will tell you that kappernick was garbage and about to be traded away before he pulled that stunt
there's the flipside of that though: while it may be "disastrous PR" it would also be... is the right word infamous?
you know, the stupid thing they try to do with actual boxers?
"I'M GONNA WHOOP HIS ASS!!"
Those who develop an opinion upon this white supremacist revalation would be politically movtivated and unlikely to spend anything on merchandise or games at all
Do boxers really focus on their beliefs though?
then they get out into the ring and it's like an hour of defensive boxing
All we see are their skills and personas
yeah but I mean like with boxing it's like there's shit talking... cause it's boxing
They give interviews, and if they're big enough then people do listen
And I think theres a level of excitement that spawns from that
if you remove that then it's like "I plan to see how my opponent will deal with a flurry of punches to the solar plexus..." or some bullshit
You can find the ones from Ali where he talks about being anti-miscegenation
but the thing is, they don't get on TV talking about white supremacy, they just play normally
Yeah, it is a bit different when it's just their personal private beliefs that they aren'r forcing on anyone
But still after it coming out I think many would have trouble supporting them in any way
damn, was losing my original point. that it's a PR disaster but it's a disaster to also let go that level of drama
All that has to be done to support them is say "i support them because of what they do on the field, not what they believe"
Id say its like that arenanet thing
She wasnt fired for her beleifs
SHe was fired for how she treated paying customers
I think it's a question of who runs the league.
the white supremacist team, proving white supremacy? you can't make a real life villain story any better
He shouldnt be fired for being a supremacist. Should be fired if he starts pissing customers off deliberately.
and then you just make that entire situation anti-climactic by banning them
that's gonna piss off people who were hyped up for the drama
Which having a belief shouldnt count.
If it's some public thing anyone can join and having personal beliefs isn't against the rules then I don't think they should be disallowed
But if it's a private business type thing it's more of a grey area
Supporting someone doesnt mean you adopt their beliefs wholesale, liking a celebrity doesnt mean you parrot everything they say and voting for someone doesnt mean you agree with everything they do
its utter nonsense to say seggust that "i like this person becuase they good at this sport" somehow translates to "i adopt their views as my own"
This is a standard political tactic on both sides of the aisle and its polluting the dialogue