Message from @n-

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2018-07-08 18:42:09 UTC  

it reminds me of Muhammad Ali, naming himself after the legend, and then producing a similar legend in actuality

2018-07-08 18:42:33 UTC  

To be honest, most people who do sports do it for something they believe in.

2018-07-08 18:42:39 UTC  

Everyone loves a shittalker but they have to back it up on the field

2018-07-08 18:42:41 UTC  

I think it would be disastrous PR for anyone hosting them. Just look at how someone as milquetoast as Jordan Peterson gets treated when he attends an event. These are ACTUAL white supremacists

2018-07-08 18:43:08 UTC  

that's another thing I considered

2018-07-08 18:43:09 UTC  

You are right, I was thinking from the ethics standpoint, not the practicality.

2018-07-08 18:43:10 UTC  

Nah, its the same shit with the kneeling scandal

2018-07-08 18:43:31 UTC  

everyone who followed football before then will tell you that kappernick was garbage and about to be traded away before he pulled that stunt

2018-07-08 18:44:00 UTC  

there's the flipside of that though: while it may be "disastrous PR" it would also be... is the right word infamous?

2018-07-08 18:44:19 UTC  

you know, the stupid thing they try to do with actual boxers?

2018-07-08 18:44:26 UTC  

"I'M GONNA WHOOP HIS ASS!!"

2018-07-08 18:44:29 UTC  

Those who develop an opinion upon this white supremacist revalation would be politically movtivated and unlikely to spend anything on merchandise or games at all

2018-07-08 18:44:34 UTC  

Do boxers really focus on their beliefs though?

2018-07-08 18:44:40 UTC  

then they get out into the ring and it's like an hour of defensive boxing

2018-07-08 18:44:52 UTC  

All we see are their skills and personas

2018-07-08 18:45:01 UTC  

yeah but I mean like with boxing it's like there's shit talking... cause it's boxing

2018-07-08 18:45:14 UTC  

They give interviews, and if they're big enough then people do listen

2018-07-08 18:45:16 UTC  

And I think theres a level of excitement that spawns from that

2018-07-08 18:45:32 UTC  

if you remove that then it's like "I plan to see how my opponent will deal with a flurry of punches to the solar plexus..." or some bullshit

2018-07-08 18:45:42 UTC  

You can find the ones from Ali where he talks about being anti-miscegenation

2018-07-08 18:45:58 UTC  

but the thing is, they don't get on TV talking about white supremacy, they just play normally

2018-07-08 18:46:35 UTC  

Yeah, it is a bit different when it's just their personal private beliefs that they aren'r forcing on anyone

2018-07-08 18:46:53 UTC  

But still after it coming out I think many would have trouble supporting them in any way

2018-07-08 18:47:17 UTC  

damn, was losing my original point. that it's a PR disaster but it's a disaster to also let go that level of drama

2018-07-08 18:47:26 UTC  

All that has to be done to support them is say "i support them because of what they do on the field, not what they believe"

2018-07-08 18:47:32 UTC  

Id say its like that arenanet thing

2018-07-08 18:47:38 UTC  

She wasnt fired for her beleifs

2018-07-08 18:47:45 UTC  

SHe was fired for how she treated paying customers

2018-07-08 18:47:51 UTC  

I think it's a question of who runs the league.

2018-07-08 18:47:55 UTC  

the white supremacist team, proving white supremacy? you can't make a real life villain story any better

2018-07-08 18:48:07 UTC  

He shouldnt be fired for being a supremacist. Should be fired if he starts pissing customers off deliberately.

2018-07-08 18:48:15 UTC  

and then you just make that entire situation anti-climactic by banning them

2018-07-08 18:48:30 UTC  

that's gonna piss off people who were hyped up for the drama

2018-07-08 18:48:30 UTC  

Which having a belief shouldnt count.

2018-07-08 18:48:32 UTC  

If it's some public thing anyone can join and having personal beliefs isn't against the rules then I don't think they should be disallowed

2018-07-08 18:48:54 UTC  

But if it's a private business type thing it's more of a grey area

2018-07-08 18:48:54 UTC  

Supporting someone doesnt mean you adopt their beliefs wholesale, liking a celebrity doesnt mean you parrot everything they say and voting for someone doesnt mean you agree with everything they do

2018-07-08 18:50:00 UTC  

its utter nonsense to say seggust that "i like this person becuase they good at this sport" somehow translates to "i adopt their views as my own"

2018-07-08 18:50:30 UTC  

This is a standard political tactic on both sides of the aisle and its polluting the dialogue

2018-07-08 18:51:24 UTC  

So in the case you presented yes the white supremacist team should be allowed to play and their fans shouldnt feel bad for supporting them

2018-07-08 18:51:31 UTC  

Yeah, but it's pretty normal to have bad feelings towards someone when they have such extreme beliefs that can spoil your enjoyment of what they produce