Message from @Blackhawk342
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A ban caused by someone having the wrong beliefs is not good.
I don't know enough about how sports leagues are structured
I've asked a few others about that
Why would it ruin it? wouldnt everyone turn out in droves to see the supremacists proven wrong?
I don't think so especially not when it's clear they're going to keep winning given their record (which is probably unrelated to their race)
Also, this is also a question on whether intent affects the action
Every titan has to fall at somepoint, sports crowds would eat up the undefeated team getting taken down
some of the stuff I've gotten from others is that, for example, if they used money, fame, and influenced gained from their success in the sport to bring about a white supremacist revival, then we have to deal with that shit all over again
Then that is preemptively punishment
But we don't know they're going to do that
YOu are punishing someone for something that hasnt happened.
my stance was simple: I'm not a sports fan, but I'm a fan of excellence and monstrous shit talking, I would get into whatever sport they played just to see the game where they lose, or even the one where they almost lose
I love the idea that someone would have the gall to think they could do that
it reminds me of Muhammad Ali, naming himself after the legend, and then producing a similar legend in actuality
To be honest, most people who do sports do it for something they believe in.
Everyone loves a shittalker but they have to back it up on the field
I think it would be disastrous PR for anyone hosting them. Just look at how someone as milquetoast as Jordan Peterson gets treated when he attends an event. These are ACTUAL white supremacists
that's another thing I considered
You are right, I was thinking from the ethics standpoint, not the practicality.
Nah, its the same shit with the kneeling scandal
everyone who followed football before then will tell you that kappernick was garbage and about to be traded away before he pulled that stunt
there's the flipside of that though: while it may be "disastrous PR" it would also be... is the right word infamous?
you know, the stupid thing they try to do with actual boxers?
"I'M GONNA WHOOP HIS ASS!!"
Those who develop an opinion upon this white supremacist revalation would be politically movtivated and unlikely to spend anything on merchandise or games at all
Do boxers really focus on their beliefs though?
then they get out into the ring and it's like an hour of defensive boxing
All we see are their skills and personas
yeah but I mean like with boxing it's like there's shit talking... cause it's boxing
They give interviews, and if they're big enough then people do listen
And I think theres a level of excitement that spawns from that
if you remove that then it's like "I plan to see how my opponent will deal with a flurry of punches to the solar plexus..." or some bullshit
You can find the ones from Ali where he talks about being anti-miscegenation
but the thing is, they don't get on TV talking about white supremacy, they just play normally
Yeah, it is a bit different when it's just their personal private beliefs that they aren'r forcing on anyone
But still after it coming out I think many would have trouble supporting them in any way
damn, was losing my original point. that it's a PR disaster but it's a disaster to also let go that level of drama
All that has to be done to support them is say "i support them because of what they do on the field, not what they believe"
Id say its like that arenanet thing
She wasnt fired for her beleifs
SHe was fired for how she treated paying customers