Message from @Dr.Wol
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well thats a difference in how we percieve moderation, because to me moderate is non-negative amounts
you gotta be more honest in a true debate though
I am honest
But its a tactic, it throws people off
hope so! so you really wouldnt force vaccinate anyone against their will ACTUALLY irl, then
no 😄 i'm not a monster
see, thats whats im talking about. that was trolling. funny, but not an argument in a debate
If i'd force such things, i'd be no better than any authoritarian that says "I'm doing X against your will because its for your own good"
well, the debate was long over at that point
ya but this is a debate thread ..... why the distract tactic to "throw people off" from real arguments. that is pure sophistry
Don't expect anyone you debate to play fairly,
The influential people of the world won't
Learn to notice it so you can call such people out on it
like you did after
then why treat this as a debate thread?
to practice debating with people ofc 😄
sets a bad precedent to delve into counter-productive trolling in a "debate"thread
its not really debating though .....
I might troll on occassion, but its still in the context of the debate
I don't throw the entire debate off its rails and change the topic on the channel
And it is debating,
When you debate, you try to persuade your audience, not the other person,
And nothing makes your side look better, than to get the other side to stumble and quiet down
"But its a tactic, it throws people off" .... not an argument 😉
It doesn't have to be, if it works to get your point across
so you dont have to present arguments in a debate?
then its not a debate
And if you see it in someone and call them on it,
It makes THEM look foolish 😉 which promotes your side
so thats still not a debate LOL
"It makes THEM look foolish 😉 which promotes your side" 😹
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hey mate, i don't make the rules,
If debating was all about who presents the truest facts, the Right-wing would be ruling the world
If you present facts, but are a dick, people will still pick the other side, because they simply don't want to give you the win
Debating is as much a game of wits as it is about presenting truth
otherwise, all politicians would be scientists
sure, im not even gonna pretend that some of those tacitcs cannot work out in my favor too
oh they will, plenty of times
but still not even going to pretend like im debating with any sort of arguments.... cuz would just be manipulating ppl subtley in that case 😉
If you perform such acts poorly, the audience will realise you're talking shit, and they will side with the other side
welcome to debating
well Mike Cernovich is effective.... but he plays on THAT front of the battleline where it belongs (trolling, etc)
Look at Trump for example, his debate points were
"I'm gonna bring back Jobs,
I'm gonna do great,
You're Wrong,
I'm smart,
MAGA"
He still inspired people to vote for him
and its not all "They just hated Hillary more"
Cuz Trump also won in the Republican party