hope so! so you really wouldnt force vaccinate anyone against their will ACTUALLY irl, then

no 😄 i'm not a monster

see, thats whats im talking about. that was trolling. funny, but not an argument in a debate

If i'd force such things, i'd be no better than any authoritarian that says "I'm doing X against your will because its for your own good"

well, the debate was long over at that point

ya but this is a debate thread ..... why the distract tactic to "throw people off" from real arguments. that is pure sophistry

Don't expect anyone you debate to play fairly,
The influential people of the world won't

Learn to notice it so you can call such people out on it

like you did after

then why treat this as a debate thread?

to practice debating with people ofc 😄

sets a bad precedent to delve into counter-productive trolling in a "debate"thread

its not really debating though .....

I might troll on occassion, but its still in the context of the debate

I don't throw the entire debate off its rails and change the topic on the channel

And it is debating,

When you debate, you try to persuade your audience, not the other person,
And nothing makes your side look better, than to get the other side to stumble and quiet down

its why SJW's shame and yell

"But its a tactic, it throws people off" .... not an argument 😉

It doesn't have to be, if it works to get your point across

so you dont have to present arguments in a debate?

then its not a debate

And if you see it in someone and call them on it,

It makes THEM look foolish 😉 which promotes your side

so thats still not a debate LOL

"It makes THEM look foolish 😉 which promotes your side" 😹

👌 🐸

hey mate, i don't make the rules,

If debating was all about who presents the truest facts, the Right-wing would be ruling the world

If you present facts, but are a dick, people will still pick the other side, because they simply don't want to give you the win

Debating is as much a game of wits as it is about presenting truth

otherwise, all politicians would be scientists

sure, im not even gonna pretend that some of those tacitcs cannot work out in my favor too

oh they will, plenty of times

but still not even going to pretend like im debating with any sort of arguments.... cuz would just be manipulating ppl subtley in that case 😉

If you perform such acts poorly, the audience will realise you're talking shit, and they will side with the other side

welcome to debating

well Mike Cernovich is effective.... but he plays on THAT front of the battleline where it belongs (trolling, etc)

Look at Trump for example, his debate points were

"I'm gonna bring back Jobs,
I'm gonna do great,
You're Wrong,
I'm smart,
MAGA"

He still inspired people to vote for him

and its not all "They just hated Hillary more"
Cuz Trump also won in the Republican party

yeah, doesnt change the whole idea that debates require arguments... otherwise pure manipulative sophistry fluff

well i did bring arguments

you can't just discount me trolling on the side as me having no argument at all

dirtying the waters with trolling too tho