Message from @Poptarts
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i gtg
alrighty then, and we'll have to disagree on that one i guess 😛
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okay maybe alcohol is a bad example bcuz 1 glass of red wine or even only 1 beer per day might be good for your health.... but smoking and other drugs though... yeah maybe "safe" in moderation, but still bad for your health such as some hard drugs
I only smoke crack recreationally.
And to help me get started with my day
And to help me get to sleep
And for social purposes
okay.... so in moderation, right? but it also comes with its side effects that could be hurting you more in the long run
depends, on stuff like crack, the moderate amount is the kind that wont get you addicted i guess? 😛
And for forgetting the side effects that are hurting me more in the long term
i mean... just rolling with your devils advocate for a min 😉 obv you dont really do that
but we'll have to shelf this discussion for another day, i don't wanna keep you here
see, thats exactly what im saying ... moderation not neccesarily good bcuz of the net risks and other externalities
Nah i do devils advocate, constantly, and yes my online personality is annoying to troll levels,
But i don't do it to just piss you off, i do take part in the debate
well thats a difference in how we percieve moderation, because to me moderate is non-negative amounts
you gotta be more honest in a true debate though
I am honest
But its a tactic, it throws people off
no 😄 i'm not a monster
see, thats whats im talking about. that was trolling. funny, but not an argument in a debate
If i'd force such things, i'd be no better than any authoritarian that says "I'm doing X against your will because its for your own good"
well, the debate was long over at that point
ya but this is a debate thread ..... why the distract tactic to "throw people off" from real arguments. that is pure sophistry
Don't expect anyone you debate to play fairly,
The influential people of the world won't
Learn to notice it so you can call such people out on it
like you did after
then why treat this as a debate thread?
to practice debating with people ofc 😄
sets a bad precedent to delve into counter-productive trolling in a "debate"thread
its not really debating though .....
I might troll on occassion, but its still in the context of the debate
I don't throw the entire debate off its rails and change the topic on the channel
And it is debating,
When you debate, you try to persuade your audience, not the other person,
And nothing makes your side look better, than to get the other side to stumble and quiet down
its why SJW's shame and yell
"But its a tactic, it throws people off" .... not an argument 😉
It doesn't have to be, if it works to get your point across
so you dont have to present arguments in a debate?
then its not a debate