Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-07-08 21:58:58 UTC  

Don't expect anyone you debate to play fairly,
The influential people of the world won't

2018-07-08 21:59:19 UTC  

Learn to notice it so you can call such people out on it

2018-07-08 21:59:27 UTC  

like you did after

2018-07-08 21:59:44 UTC  

then why treat this as a debate thread?

2018-07-08 22:00:00 UTC  

to practice debating with people ofc 😄

2018-07-08 22:00:20 UTC  

sets a bad precedent to delve into counter-productive trolling in a "debate"thread

2018-07-08 22:00:42 UTC  

its not really debating though .....

2018-07-08 22:00:54 UTC  

I might troll on occassion, but its still in the context of the debate

2018-07-08 22:01:13 UTC  

I don't throw the entire debate off its rails and change the topic on the channel

2018-07-08 22:01:49 UTC  

And it is debating,

When you debate, you try to persuade your audience, not the other person,
And nothing makes your side look better, than to get the other side to stumble and quiet down

2018-07-08 22:02:05 UTC  

its why SJW's shame and yell

2018-07-08 22:02:12 UTC  

"But its a tactic, it throws people off" .... not an argument 😉

2018-07-08 22:02:32 UTC  

It doesn't have to be, if it works to get your point across

2018-07-08 22:02:50 UTC  

so you dont have to present arguments in a debate?

2018-07-08 22:02:55 UTC  

then its not a debate

2018-07-08 22:03:01 UTC  

And if you see it in someone and call them on it,

It makes THEM look foolish 😉 which promotes your side

2018-07-08 22:03:15 UTC  

so thats still not a debate LOL

2018-07-08 22:03:34 UTC  

"It makes THEM look foolish 😉 which promotes your side" 😹

2018-07-08 22:04:02 UTC  

👌 🐸

2018-07-08 22:04:07 UTC  

hey mate, i don't make the rules,

If debating was all about who presents the truest facts, the Right-wing would be ruling the world

2018-07-08 22:04:36 UTC  

If you present facts, but are a dick, people will still pick the other side, because they simply don't want to give you the win

2018-07-08 22:04:56 UTC  

Debating is as much a game of wits as it is about presenting truth

2018-07-08 22:05:12 UTC  

otherwise, all politicians would be scientists

2018-07-08 22:05:47 UTC  

sure, im not even gonna pretend that some of those tacitcs cannot work out in my favor too

2018-07-08 22:06:06 UTC  

oh they will, plenty of times

2018-07-08 22:06:35 UTC  

but still not even going to pretend like im debating with any sort of arguments.... cuz would just be manipulating ppl subtley in that case 😉

2018-07-08 22:06:42 UTC  

If you perform such acts poorly, the audience will realise you're talking shit, and they will side with the other side

2018-07-08 22:07:06 UTC  

welcome to debating

2018-07-08 22:07:58 UTC  

well Mike Cernovich is effective.... but he plays on THAT front of the battleline where it belongs (trolling, etc)

2018-07-08 22:08:45 UTC  

Look at Trump for example, his debate points were

"I'm gonna bring back Jobs,
I'm gonna do great,
You're Wrong,
I'm smart,
MAGA"

He still inspired people to vote for him

2018-07-08 22:09:25 UTC  

and its not all "They just hated Hillary more"
Cuz Trump also won in the Republican party

2018-07-08 22:10:15 UTC  

yeah, doesnt change the whole idea that debates require arguments... otherwise pure manipulative sophistry fluff

2018-07-08 22:10:23 UTC  

well i did bring arguments

2018-07-08 22:10:32 UTC  

you can't just discount me trolling on the side as me having no argument at all

2018-07-08 22:10:34 UTC  

dirtying the waters with trolling too tho

2018-07-08 22:11:17 UTC  

never said that... all i said was that i noticed you have a tendency to regress into trolling after your arguments start to fall apart

2018-07-08 22:11:41 UTC  

nah, you don't get to decide my arguments fall appart just because you don't agree with them

2018-07-08 22:11:55 UTC  

like today, you accused me of trolling right off the bat

2018-07-08 22:12:16 UTC  

My argument cant fall appart if my opening statement is "trolling"

2018-07-08 22:12:25 UTC  

lol okay ... that is what i have observed 😉

2018-07-08 22:12:42 UTC  

then you're wrong