@zutt 2 things, 1 is that nobody does anything for no reward whatsoever, it's merely that rewards are not always material. Charity work, for instance, offers benefits towards one's reputation, can pad out a resume, and can settle someone's conscience. They also benefit from helping to fix the problems in their community, provided those problems are alleviated or solved. FOSS software is another similar case, where people will use it as an educational tool, use it to break into other social circles etc. 2. Communism isn't "does shit for free", it is the recategorization of people as assets. Your work and the fruits of it do not belong to you, they belong to a collective. Your participation is compulsory. The only way by which one could conceivably keep such a system going is through harsh punitive measures

Also re: medical coverage, I find it baffling that A: barely anyone has done an in depth study or set of studies as to the actual efficacy/response time of the Canadian medical system and B: that Americans would promote switching to a system where hospitals are at or over capacity and the government has proven useless in their efforts to fix the very issues that will tank medical coverage here. At the very least, if (and when) the ACA was tried in any form (including the original one pitched by the administration) and failed catastrophically, there is a "back up plan" already in place

Well as far as the national healthcare goes everyone here just shrugs his shoulders when they hear about usa

As for the internet thing you are right that my description is bad nontheless there are communities where ppl spend huge amount of time on projects with no reward. Socialism lacks this kind of motivation for ppl was the point i tried to make ineffectively.

@@Firefairy Pursuit of happiness was declaration of independence, not the constitution. Your insight on how the US gets used to test the world standard at it's own expense is spot on.

The point I was arguing was that human rights emphasize the human duty to go and take, not the governments duty to give. There are no human rights to which we are unanimously entitled from the government, as that defies other's rights to life liberty and property.

Its well documented that lack of motivation led to low productivity durring the socialist era in my country

It was the oposite ppl who worked hard got usualy punished by their colective

well, those projects with no reward are usually for the fun,
the reward is enjoying the production in their free time


That said, i doubt many people enjoy for example driving around in a trash-collector, rummaging through the stink and filth containers to throw them into the truck, hence there is no reward other than money

"I love breaking rocks all day so I can eat shitty food" - no one ever

thats the issue with socialism, that it only works if everyone does what they enjoy,
But society needs people to do the trashy things, and they wont volunteer

Well i would disagree on breaking rocks

Reeancting stone age methods is actualy lot of fun

Idk about the shity food tho

🤣

As for those projects

thats the thing though, reenacting means you can quit anytime

Idk do ppl enjoy making subtitles ?

they might sure

feels like a thing of "i helped 😃 "

its the case of, they aren't obligated, so if they get tired of it they can quit anytime they want

if everyone does that at every crappy job, society practically stops

and you can make the point "there will be people who enjoy menial tasks" and stuff, and sure there will be, but not at the amount we have them now

its that case of "why would i wanna scrape someone elses poop off the public toilet, when that same pooper is writing a 3rd rate poetry slam

I mean if they didn't get some sort of value out of fan translations why would they do them?

Ppl draw motivation from different things

Some ppl just wanted to share i think

Some did it for fame when they added their name as translator

Maybe ?

well that fame is their intended reward

but i joined mid-discussion so i don't know the overarching topic 😄

i'll leave you to it

Subbed anime is a human right.

Dubbed anime is a war crime as outlined in the Geneva convention

what is the difference between manga and subbed anime? With manga you get to appreciate the art after you finish reading the text.

Manga wastes your time less

I've almost entirely converted over. There's just a few series that are either TV only or that I'm already most of the way through in animu form

Granted the only new series I watch is puppets, not drawings, but still

Depends tbh

Some manga is better than anime and vice versa

name 1!

Cant say that there are many series ive read and watched

Name 1 what ?