Message from @NativeInterface
Discord ID: 476166723977084928
you need to perform an act of original appropriation, like putting it to use or joining it to acquired property, or marking it as owned
you cant just plant a flag, write a constitution and pretend everyone agrees
okay, how long does something need to be unclaimed for there to be no claim?
i'm not sure, it's something we've been discussing in ancap discords
old lady, no kids, no siblings, dies. no will, who gets the house? how long before someone can move in to make a claim?
what would we be waiting for?
make sure there is no one that was family to make a claim
or a friend or something
i think you would have that in mind if you go homesteading a house with dead people in it. you could take a chance and just go for it, but someone might come later and reassert their claim
and if you don't know if its true, it goes into arbitration, someone gets it
correct?
yeah
who pays for arbitration?
the ones who finds it valuable to do so
it can be paid for by anyone in any way except taxation
i want the same systems we have today, but without the taxes and state monopoly bs
so you mean, just as bad
the person with the most money wins most of the time
because why side with the person with less wealth, except in places of strong character and a defined set of right and wrong
both parties need to agree on a judge. if the judge always sides with the rich, there would be no point for the poor to consult that judge.
and no rich person would want a judge who wasn't going to side with them
particularly if they want the property
so, we have an impasse
we have a giant arbitration industry right now that a lot of people prefer to go to rather than the state. this seems like a basic old problem that the arbitration industry has solved long time ago.
worst case scenario the partisan judges would just have to choose an arbitrator they both agree on
we have an impasse. i mean, there is no state. so it easy to have this be a local thing
which means greater chance to have bias judges being the only thing near by
particular if you are dealing with say an out of towner
so we need an even more corruptible monopoly that settles it with an iron fist?
need? no. but then again, my argument is never that we need the state... its always that it will come back, and does for a reason. so why repeat history and instead do our best to fix this
but so we have an impasse
so, if one side wants to press, we have conflict
who is the aggressor?
well i agree in one sense
the person who laid claim to the dead person's house? or the one who is from out of town claiming its theirs? arbitration failed., either side could agree on a judge.
i believe that if there is a challenge or an impasse, people will always strive to solve the issues in one way or another
but i dont believe that people will just run into an impasse, and there will be a giant hole in the system, and people will just sit on their hands and do nothing
no, either they give up, or they press.
it reminds me of the who would build the roads argument
so, what happens if they press