Message from @NativeInterface

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2018-08-06 22:37:25 UTC  

phase 2 would prolly be removing any non-left opinion

2018-08-06 22:42:27 UTC  

i had a feeling that was the plan

2018-08-06 22:58:50 UTC  

>how much of the market needs to be covered to be considered a monopoly? i mean, no 1 government has a monopoly of the world

not the whole world, but some have just called dibs on an entire continent

2018-08-06 22:59:08 UTC  

okay but some dont

2018-08-06 22:59:24 UTC  

the problem is that they dont have what is considered legitimate ownership of the land according to homesteading principles

2018-08-06 22:59:43 UTC  

please define what you believe the homesteading principle is

2018-08-06 23:03:20 UTC  

you need to perform an act of original appropriation, like putting it to use or joining it to acquired property, or marking it as owned

2018-08-06 23:04:00 UTC  

you cant just plant a flag, write a constitution and pretend everyone agrees

2018-08-06 23:04:53 UTC  

okay, how long does something need to be unclaimed for there to be no claim?

2018-08-06 23:05:47 UTC  

i'm not sure, it's something we've been discussing in ancap discords

2018-08-06 23:05:50 UTC  

old lady, no kids, no siblings, dies. no will, who gets the house? how long before someone can move in to make a claim?

2018-08-06 23:06:15 UTC  

what would we be waiting for?

2018-08-06 23:06:40 UTC  

make sure there is no one that was family to make a claim

2018-08-06 23:06:52 UTC  

or a friend or something

2018-08-06 23:08:14 UTC  

i think you would have that in mind if you go homesteading a house with dead people in it. you could take a chance and just go for it, but someone might come later and reassert their claim

2018-08-06 23:08:47 UTC  

and if you don't know if its true, it goes into arbitration, someone gets it

2018-08-06 23:08:52 UTC  

correct?

2018-08-06 23:09:00 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-06 23:10:37 UTC  

who pays for arbitration?

2018-08-06 23:11:38 UTC  

the ones who finds it valuable to do so

2018-08-06 23:11:44 UTC  

it can be paid for by anyone in any way except taxation

2018-08-06 23:13:14 UTC  

i want the same systems we have today, but without the taxes and state monopoly bs

2018-08-06 23:14:46 UTC  

so you mean, just as bad

2018-08-06 23:14:54 UTC  

the person with the most money wins most of the time

2018-08-06 23:15:27 UTC  

because why side with the person with less wealth, except in places of strong character and a defined set of right and wrong

2018-08-06 23:16:20 UTC  

both parties need to agree on a judge. if the judge always sides with the rich, there would be no point for the poor to consult that judge.

2018-08-06 23:16:33 UTC  

everyone has a track record

2018-08-06 23:16:59 UTC  

and no rich person would want a judge who wasn't going to side with them

2018-08-06 23:17:12 UTC  

particularly if they want the property

2018-08-06 23:17:21 UTC  

so, we have an impasse

2018-08-06 23:18:19 UTC  

we have a giant arbitration industry right now that a lot of people prefer to go to rather than the state. this seems like a basic old problem that the arbitration industry has solved long time ago.

2018-08-06 23:18:49 UTC  

worst case scenario the partisan judges would just have to choose an arbitrator they both agree on

2018-08-06 23:19:08 UTC  

we have an impasse. i mean, there is no state. so it easy to have this be a local thing

2018-08-06 23:19:22 UTC  

which means greater chance to have bias judges being the only thing near by

2018-08-06 23:20:12 UTC  

particular if you are dealing with say an out of towner

2018-08-06 23:20:32 UTC  

so we need an even more corruptible monopoly that settles it with an iron fist?

2018-08-06 23:21:29 UTC  

need? no. but then again, my argument is never that we need the state... its always that it will come back, and does for a reason. so why repeat history and instead do our best to fix this

2018-08-06 23:21:34 UTC  

but so we have an impasse

2018-08-06 23:21:55 UTC  

so, if one side wants to press, we have conflict

2018-08-06 23:22:04 UTC  

who is the aggressor?

2018-08-06 23:22:21 UTC  

well i agree in one sense