Message from @Grenade123
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everyone has a track record
and no rich person would want a judge who wasn't going to side with them
particularly if they want the property
so, we have an impasse
we have a giant arbitration industry right now that a lot of people prefer to go to rather than the state. this seems like a basic old problem that the arbitration industry has solved long time ago.
worst case scenario the partisan judges would just have to choose an arbitrator they both agree on
we have an impasse. i mean, there is no state. so it easy to have this be a local thing
which means greater chance to have bias judges being the only thing near by
particular if you are dealing with say an out of towner
so we need an even more corruptible monopoly that settles it with an iron fist?
need? no. but then again, my argument is never that we need the state... its always that it will come back, and does for a reason. so why repeat history and instead do our best to fix this
but so we have an impasse
so, if one side wants to press, we have conflict
who is the aggressor?
well i agree in one sense
the person who laid claim to the dead person's house? or the one who is from out of town claiming its theirs? arbitration failed., either side could agree on a judge.
i believe that if there is a challenge or an impasse, people will always strive to solve the issues in one way or another
but i dont believe that people will just run into an impasse, and there will be a giant hole in the system, and people will just sit on their hands and do nothing
no, either they give up, or they press.
it reminds me of the who would build the roads argument
who is the aggressor?
i believe that there are peaceful solutions to impasses
only if both sides agree to peace, in which case arbitration would have worked or settled
but one side didn't budge
both think they have rightful claim
so, who is the aggressor if one side presses
the out of towner with a story, or the guy who moved into a dead persons house.
can't really prove the out of towner is lying
i don't know
can't really prove he isn't the owner
am i supposed to know this?
its perfectly fine to admit you don't know, its a rough question. with, perhaps, no right answer.
do you think ownership is objective?
hmm
maybe ownership is objective, but "rightful ownership" is subjective
good distinction. I was more curious about rightful ownership. Since i think most people can believe current ownership is objective in terms of whoever can defend something currently owns it.
so, rightful ownership is subjective
that, in my opinion, is what makes the previous question about who is the aggressor so hard.
reality is hard, thats why we consult professionals
because to be an aggressor, you'd need to be in the wrong. If both sides believe the other does not have rightful ownership, then either is the aggressor and both is the aggressor.