Message from @Grenade123
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it's so wasteful when you could recycle people
But if you ignore ethics, they're pragmatic.
think of the environment
Still, the problems I have with anarchical solutions...
Let's start with the first
It depends on everyone holding the same principles in roughly the same or similar priority
something that we can't even do with a state
we're kind of holding the same principles about direct slavery
Alright...
politics is downstream from culture, the culture changes and the government adjusts
But how are you going to convince people to uphold the NAP when there are people who claim that speech is violence?
yeah the trends are not looking good
They really aren't.
The NAP is a GREAT concept, don't get me wrong
why would i care about the environment?
earth wouldn't give two shits
we are the ones who care
i can just account for my own principles
Exactly my point.
theres no point in me abandoning my principles just because other people are retarded
this is true, physically it's getting more peaceful, but ideologically i don't know what's happening
But if those other people who are retarded also have their own set of principles that puts yours beneath theirs, how do you reconcile that?
i can just act according to my principles, i don't know what you mean by reconcile
I mean, they want your shit. By your principles they can't have it, but by their principles, in much the same way as the debate earlier, they think they can.
In much the same way that a politician doesn't have power without a military and police
your principles don't really have power beyond the force behind them
are you asking how i find peace with the fact that i have to pay taxes?
I'm a reformist, I'll remind you.
sorry i dont get the question
it seems hes asking how you ensure that your principles stay as the dominant principles
AnCap and AnCom require what practically amounts to a hive mind to function without war. How do you handle dissenters?
Basically what Blackhawk said.
"handle dissenters"? well if they attack me i hope i have enough numbers on my side for defending against their aggressions to be realistic
you dont really need a hive mind, just some respect for the principles
So, whoever has the most force gets to decide who the dissenters are.
simple force may not be enough
didnt darwin say that the most adaptable wins, not necessarily the strongest
If you end up in a community where 90% of the people want to take the property of the other 10%
if you pay attention you'll notice that war has been decreasing because the warzone has changed, the war is about opinions and beliefs and propaganda now
Poor response. You're still conceding that your property can be entirely lost due to a change in principle.