but if you have a government that eliminates people, the united states would bomb it and kill everyone

ignore the exception that can disprove the trend

hey, no more humans, no more human problems, bomb away

such nihilism

just make sure you get everyone

hey, didn't say it was the best solution, just a solution.

Like I said, I wouldn't argue in favor of EthNat solutions

it's so wasteful when you could recycle people

But if you ignore ethics, they're pragmatic.

think of the environment

Still, the problems I have with anarchical solutions...

Let's start with the first

It depends on everyone holding the same principles in roughly the same or similar priority

something that we can't even do with a state

we're kind of holding the same principles about direct slavery

Alright...

politics is downstream from culture, the culture changes and the government adjusts

But how are you going to convince people to uphold the NAP when there are people who claim that speech is violence?

yeah the trends are not looking good

They really aren't.

The NAP is a GREAT concept, don't get me wrong

why would i care about the environment?

earth wouldn't give two shits

we are the ones who care

i can just account for my own principles

Exactly my point.

theres no point in me abandoning my principles just because other people are retarded

might i point out, that we have been slowly getting less violent for a while now

this is true, physically it's getting more peaceful, but ideologically i don't know what's happening

But if those other people who are retarded also have their own set of principles that puts yours beneath theirs, how do you reconcile that?

i can just act according to my principles, i don't know what you mean by reconcile

I mean, they want your shit. By your principles they can't have it, but by their principles, in much the same way as the debate earlier, they think they can.

In much the same way that a politician doesn't have power without a military and police

your principles don't really have power beyond the force behind them

are you asking how i find peace with the fact that i have to pay taxes?

I'm a reformist, I'll remind you.

sorry i dont get the question

it seems hes asking how you ensure that your principles stay as the dominant principles

AnCap and AnCom require what practically amounts to a hive mind to function without war. How do you handle dissenters?

Basically what Blackhawk said.

"handle dissenters"? well if they attack me i hope i have enough numbers on my side for defending against their aggressions to be realistic