Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-08-07 03:38:59 UTC  

I probably wasn't here for that then.

2018-08-07 03:39:27 UTC  

You pointed out that 'it would no longer be anarcho capitalism'

2018-08-07 03:39:35 UTC  

And fulfilled my point.

2018-08-07 03:40:41 UTC  

It will no longer be anarcho capitalism because it goes against the principles of anarcho capitalism. The same way as when you put the donger in the booty you are violating the principles of christianity.

2018-08-07 03:40:56 UTC  

isnt that a bit like circular reasoning? that something is natural because it happened?

2018-08-07 03:41:09 UTC  

It's natural because it KEEPS happening.

2018-08-07 03:41:20 UTC  

Any time you demolish a state, a new one forms.

2018-08-07 03:41:29 UTC  

Liberty better keep happening 😤

2018-08-07 03:42:09 UTC  

You could use that same logic to state that every time you form a new state, it will be demolished.

2018-08-07 03:42:38 UTC  

As that is also a pattern that recurs.

2018-08-07 03:42:58 UTC  

I mean, given an infinite time heat death occurs.

2018-08-07 03:43:11 UTC  

so yes, all states are destined to fall at some point.

2018-08-07 03:43:24 UTC  

It's nature.

2018-08-07 03:43:34 UTC  

*We live in a society.*

2018-08-07 03:43:41 UTC  

viruses and cancers are natural

2018-08-07 03:43:52 UTC  

Communism isn't

2018-08-07 03:44:07 UTC  

should we respect the progression of viruses?

2018-08-07 03:44:10 UTC  

Communism is anarchism.

2018-08-07 03:44:17 UTC  

No

2018-08-07 03:44:31 UTC  

Communism is "work place democracy."

2018-08-07 03:44:31 UTC  

It's literally the same structure Native argued for with a different set of principles.

2018-08-07 03:44:47 UTC  

Communism is abolition of the state and hierarchy.

2018-08-07 03:44:57 UTC  

Communism is "people collectively owning the means of production."

2018-08-07 03:45:06 UTC  

Very different

2018-08-07 03:45:08 UTC  

im not really arguing in favor of any specific structure, im just naming some examples that has been suggested to me

2018-08-07 03:45:17 UTC  

Communism is opposite of capitalism

2018-08-07 03:45:38 UTC  

I don't get how so many people are confused about this.

2018-08-07 03:46:27 UTC  

It's because of all the definition changes and brain washing in communist text

2018-08-07 03:46:28 UTC  

Could be argued though I suppose that a challenge of anarcho capitalism is how much power money has

2018-08-07 03:46:32 UTC  

What differentiates communism and capitalism outside of anarchy is the state.

2018-08-07 03:47:02 UTC  

But communism in it's completed state is anarchical and aheirarchal.

2018-08-07 03:47:16 UTC  

ruling power is different from buying power

2018-08-07 03:47:17 UTC  

We need Definitions here.

2018-08-07 03:47:47 UTC  

when you buy something theres consent of the owner of the thing you're buying from, with ruling power you don't need any consent

2018-08-07 03:47:57 UTC  

Define "Communism" and "capitalism." @RyeNorth

2018-08-07 03:48:24 UTC  

would mercenaries be banned?

2018-08-07 03:48:26 UTC  

Difficult. We're dealing with different states of matter here.

2018-08-07 03:48:46 UTC  

Should I define it as a solid or in it's gaseous state?

2018-08-07 03:48:47 UTC  

And Godfather type gangs

2018-08-07 03:48:53 UTC  

We need a definition.

2018-08-07 03:49:19 UTC  

In terms of how we are discussing about it.