Why exactly is „the following“ relevant anyway? The important thing is what someone says, not who is listening.

Guilt by association

Oh absolutely

if people who are bad likes the thing, the person saying it must be bad

The argument is that they're obviously saying something that doesn't fit the narrative

I love how JBP handles that argument. It usually goes sometihng like

Since all these shady characters love them

Reproter: most of your followers are men does that concern you?
JBP: Most of Youtube is men, statistically it makes sense.

Rinse and repeat.

Well and his response to the alt right one is that it just isn't true, and he's right

Most alt-right articles about JBP are calling him a *filthy secret hidden ninja jew agent*

You go to the comments on his posts and videos and memestate kids are raging at him

Calling him a shill and shit

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Guilt by association... really gotta love the Blockwart mentality.

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Then again... not sure if Blockwart or Stasi-IM both fit.

Oh but don't forget, the evil alt right bigot Jordan Peterson just gives common sense self help advice

There's no point in listening to him since you should already know this stuff

Seriously though, JBP's rules should be common sense but that's part of the thing

due to a storm of various simultanious powergrabs and clusterfucks, his simple basic common fucking sense ideas for living smoothly have gone untaught in the last generation or so

Well... a lot of it is stuff you should know yourself, if you were raised correctly...

and by generation I vaguely say people from age 30ish and down, in mostly north america, without specific people in mind

You mean people who never left the house as children because letting them go on the internet is easier then taking them to a park or something?

Well I think a lot of it is the how

Like I know my generation has been bombarded with a lot of these messages, but in a very superficial, ends-focused manner

Peterson is almost entirely means focused, and doesn't just drop down to platitudes. You won't get a "just work hard"

You'll get "it's important for you to consistently re-examine yourself in a meaningful and critical way, and ask yourself if you're going in the direction that's right for you" and he'll also lay the problem at your own feet

In a world that seems increasingly afraid of assessment and judgement, a simple stern "maybe you need to fix this about yourself first" is probably what a lot of these people need

You can't make anything about yourself unless you have a solid foundation

Life is constantly about reiteration and self-improvement

https://youtu.be/EqC82zmHccU?t=157

^ a different take on the purge

WELP better go buy a soapbox and walk down to the public square.

I'm pretty sure everyone here is familiar with the Bakery that's under the spotlight again recently, as well as various other similar incidents.

I'm curious how you guys, if you do, differentiate their refusal to bake a custom cake and a social media ban. In essence aren't they the same thing? A denial of a service. Particularly since one's service is built around communication, a major pillar of society, so much so that it's protected by the Constitution.

yeah they are the same thing, it's both freedom of association for the company to choose their business interactions

Political beliefs are not a protected class.

it's a very unpopular type of freedom, and people who oppose the freedom of the business, emphasize the freedom of the customer, but imo the customer has no right to be served, no more than they have a right to force people to have sex with them.

i see a business interaction the same way as any other interaction, while others separate business interactions into some kind of special public good category

Aren't religious beliefs protected?

Isn't it illegal to feed pork to a unsuspecting Muslim?