Calling him a shill and shit

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Guilt by association... really gotta love the Blockwart mentality.

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Then again... not sure if Blockwart or Stasi-IM both fit.

Oh but don't forget, the evil alt right bigot Jordan Peterson just gives common sense self help advice

There's no point in listening to him since you should already know this stuff

Seriously though, JBP's rules should be common sense but that's part of the thing

due to a storm of various simultanious powergrabs and clusterfucks, his simple basic common fucking sense ideas for living smoothly have gone untaught in the last generation or so

Well... a lot of it is stuff you should know yourself, if you were raised correctly...

and by generation I vaguely say people from age 30ish and down, in mostly north america, without specific people in mind

You mean people who never left the house as children because letting them go on the internet is easier then taking them to a park or something?

Well I think a lot of it is the how

Like I know my generation has been bombarded with a lot of these messages, but in a very superficial, ends-focused manner

Peterson is almost entirely means focused, and doesn't just drop down to platitudes. You won't get a "just work hard"

You'll get "it's important for you to consistently re-examine yourself in a meaningful and critical way, and ask yourself if you're going in the direction that's right for you" and he'll also lay the problem at your own feet

In a world that seems increasingly afraid of assessment and judgement, a simple stern "maybe you need to fix this about yourself first" is probably what a lot of these people need

You can't make anything about yourself unless you have a solid foundation

Life is constantly about reiteration and self-improvement

https://youtu.be/EqC82zmHccU?t=157

^ a different take on the purge

WELP better go buy a soapbox and walk down to the public square.

I'm pretty sure everyone here is familiar with the Bakery that's under the spotlight again recently, as well as various other similar incidents.

I'm curious how you guys, if you do, differentiate their refusal to bake a custom cake and a social media ban. In essence aren't they the same thing? A denial of a service. Particularly since one's service is built around communication, a major pillar of society, so much so that it's protected by the Constitution.

yeah they are the same thing, it's both freedom of association for the company to choose their business interactions

Political beliefs are not a protected class.

it's a very unpopular type of freedom, and people who oppose the freedom of the business, emphasize the freedom of the customer, but imo the customer has no right to be served, no more than they have a right to force people to have sex with them.

i see a business interaction the same way as any other interaction, while others separate business interactions into some kind of special public good category

Aren't religious beliefs protected?

Isn't it illegal to feed pork to a unsuspecting Muslim?

I think offering a generic service is pretty different from offering a custom service. If I am an artist offering to take commissions I want to be able to say "no I don't want to do this for you".

the reason someone rejects service to someone is unimportant to me

Okay, but change the Bakery to Starbucks and the incident where one of their stores asked some civilians to leave because they weren't making a purchase. From their perspective they weren't customers so did they not have every right to refuse them the services of their building which would fall under a generic service. Take away the civilians' skin color and this scenario could still apply to anyone that doesn't purchase Starbuck's services.

imo if you own the property, you can decide who you want to invite

Gaining entry to a place of business and using it for whatever you please simply isn't the same as buying a pre-made cake

Sorry, I meant swap the cake for the place of business; comparing generic Starbucks service to generic Twitter public space service.

Trying to get a more like vs like comparison

in my view it's all the same thing because property rights. when you use twitter you're using hardware that twitter owns.

i think a place is only public if it's tax funded
but the law probably disagrees with me on all points

Not 100% sure on that front so I can't comment xD

tbh i don't really care what the law is, because law makers/politicians argue and the outcome is random

What if it's a company that provides a basic necessity in this day and age?