Message from @JoeNoChill

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2018-08-26 06:58:19 UTC  

Gary

2018-08-26 14:37:42 UTC  

What was that community in mexico that the cops and the cartels dont fuck with again?

2018-08-26 14:37:52 UTC  

The avocado farms one?

2018-08-27 02:08:27 UTC  

Without a shitshow I came here looking for some information regarding "race realism". What information or online places can I look for this kind of research without going on radical right or radical left sources?

2018-08-27 02:08:58 UTC  

Any information you guys can give me with sources would be great. Thanks

2018-08-27 02:11:05 UTC  

i'm not sure you are going to find anything about 'race realism' that isn't from a radical pov

2018-08-27 02:14:55 UTC  

I understand. Are there any talking points for or against this notion?

2018-08-27 02:37:31 UTC  

It depends on what is against "race realism?" Is it the concept of refusing to learn the objective differences between "the races" that some maybe superior &/or inferior to others in certain? Or is it refusing act upon that that knowledge if it is an actual thing?

2018-08-27 02:40:54 UTC  

race realism just seems like the practice of selectively deciding that correlation = causation when it suits you

2018-08-27 02:41:25 UTC  

but i do find it humorous that race realists unironically argue that they are inferior to asians

2018-08-27 02:41:31 UTC  

I mean what points can be said to debunk race realism. Like Kraut and tea's video on it. I know it was pretty bad but some arguements would be nice

2018-08-27 02:44:23 UTC  

```race realism just seems like the practice of selectively deciding that correlation = causation when it suits you```

2018-08-27 02:44:35 UTC  

usually i just stick with the argument that socioeconomic factors early in life have a proven effect on intelligence and that they don't account for that at all

2018-08-27 02:44:43 UTC  

i think you are right

2018-08-27 02:44:55 UTC  

i just got censored by Mee6

2018-08-27 02:45:35 UTC  

ree censorship

2018-08-27 02:46:41 UTC  

like, most of the race realist argument is that black americans have lower average IQ than white americans and claims that it's a biological factor

2018-08-27 02:47:19 UTC  

which doesn't account for the absolutely massive cultural and socioeconomic difference between black and white americans

2018-08-27 02:47:22 UTC  

IQ is BS that is all

2018-08-27 02:47:43 UTC  

because you could draw the same graph and argue that poor people are biologically inferior to rich people

2018-08-27 02:51:15 UTC  

Thanks! I will keep not of these

2018-08-27 02:54:30 UTC  

👍🏻

2018-08-27 06:31:59 UTC  

!rank

2018-08-27 06:31:59 UTC  

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2018-08-27 06:33:58 UTC  

oh well i guess vids dont embed here but this is a new Jordan Peterson vs Sam Harris debate above ^^^

2018-08-27 09:58:28 UTC  

Race realism is really just a study of evolutionary differences...

2018-08-27 09:59:00 UTC  

Basing it around skin color, however, is extremely arbitrary.

2018-08-27 09:59:44 UTC  

Although skin color is actually an excellent argument as to why 'race realism' is, in fact, real.

2018-08-27 10:00:21 UTC  

It's evolutionary. People select for traits suitable to their environment.

2018-08-27 10:00:57 UTC  

Darker skin develops around the equator. Lighter skin tones developed further away.

2018-08-27 10:01:32 UTC  

Where the whole thing goes wrong is when people ignore the cultural influence.

2018-08-27 10:02:34 UTC  

Race realism isn't so much of a problem - and shouldn't even really be that much of a taboo - compared to race determinism.

2018-08-27 10:04:08 UTC  

Non-white people are more likely to be lactose intolerant. Darker skinned people are more likely to tolerate sun exposure better than a white person.

2018-08-27 10:04:53 UTC  

White people more frequently can't handle spicy foods, as those are generally preferred in more temperate climates.

2018-08-27 10:07:28 UTC  

The funny point to all of this is, all of these traits are related to one another. They're physiological differences that equate to consistent environmental selectors. People who try to sell you identity politics along the lines of race realism, however, aren't accounting for the true deterministic factor, Culture.

2018-08-27 10:12:18 UTC  

I'm a culturist.

2018-08-27 10:17:08 UTC  

I'm not sure what the parameters are of that label, but most likely I am too.

2018-08-27 10:18:03 UTC  

I am more likely to trust someone who I know holds principles like mine regardless of what they look like, as opposed to trusting someone who looks like me based solely on that fact.

2018-08-27 10:19:09 UTC  

Webster doesn't have the definition that I'm using it for so I guess that means we get to make up new meanings too.

2018-08-27 10:19:47 UTC  

presumably, someone who values cultural identity over arbitrary identity.