Message from @CreativeRealms

Discord ID: 483592089943146496


2018-08-27 10:53:40 UTC  

It still leaves exceptions to unreasonable circumstances for misapplication of the law.

2018-08-27 10:54:07 UTC  

And that standard would be applied to the cruel punishments.

2018-08-27 10:54:46 UTC  

The point remains, though

2018-08-27 10:55:23 UTC  

Acid Attacks are generally used as a punishment for some crime perceived by the attacker, right?

2018-08-27 10:55:57 UTC  

Usually a crime against decency set forth by Sharia law?

2018-08-27 10:55:58 UTC  

Which is not legally defined and vigilante "justice" if you could even call it that.

2018-08-27 10:56:22 UTC  

Or at least not by western standards.

2018-08-27 10:56:40 UTC  

The point is, by using their own forms of punishment, when the punishment is the problem

2018-08-27 10:56:53 UTC  

Don't you ultimately validate their methods?

2018-08-27 10:57:39 UTC  

If a citizen detains someone who's committed a crime, and it's proven

2018-08-27 10:57:47 UTC  

The citizen isn't called in to question

2018-08-27 10:57:57 UTC  

In their own countries it could be considered valid even though I'd disagree with it.

2018-08-27 10:58:09 UTC  

but if the person detained hadn't done anything, or is found innocent

2018-08-27 10:58:29 UTC  

the citizen can actually face 'kidnapping'.

2018-08-27 10:59:22 UTC  

I'm not talking about foreign nations in this particular matter, either. I'm talking Western nations upholding cultural standards that keep us that way.

2018-08-27 10:59:51 UTC  

Justice as it stems from English Commonlaw, if you will.

2018-08-27 11:01:09 UTC  

I'm saying it's rather tempting when I hear of someone being a victim of an acid attack, to wish the same upon the attacker

2018-08-27 11:01:26 UTC  

But ultimately, that's the wrong course, even if we didn't have laws forbidding it.

2018-08-27 11:01:52 UTC  

(I really need to sleep...)

2018-08-27 11:01:59 UTC  

(I'll respond to stuff later on...)

2018-08-27 11:02:18 UTC  

Gnight

2018-08-28 17:14:01 UTC  

should we set our morale base by the principles and values that the science of ethics teaches?

2018-08-28 17:14:59 UTC  

or just continue letting the masses wing it with social media?

2018-08-28 17:18:41 UTC  

I'm by no means a cultural relativist. But I don't like the idea of experiments determining what is morally right and wrong. That should be left up to society.

2018-08-28 17:20:12 UTC  

*''Ethics or moral philosophy is a branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending, and recommending concepts of right and wrong conduct. The field of ethics, along with aesthetics, concern matters of value, and thus comprise the branch of philosophy called axiology.''*

2018-08-28 17:20:52 UTC  

I would say Morals are never up for social debate, rather, Ethics must be the product of public consensus.

2018-08-28 17:21:18 UTC  

what

2018-08-28 17:22:52 UTC  

so your answers are leave it like it is

2018-08-28 17:24:13 UTC  

I don't think anyone would like the idea of having a moral abiter, commanding from upon high what is right.

2018-08-28 17:24:39 UTC  

I have always seen a clear distiction, Morals are an individuals pricibles and value's of right and wrong, Ethics by contrast are a comunity standard. To say "That person has no morals" implies that they have no internal standards. Judges are held to standards of Ethics by their associations.

2018-08-28 17:27:05 UTC  

everyone has a morla arbiter

2018-08-28 17:27:19 UTC  

parents, priests, politicians, social media

2018-08-28 17:27:38 UTC  

novadays politicans are the ones on top using morality to sway public opinion

2018-08-28 17:27:52 UTC  

with shady values and principles that are hollow

2018-08-28 17:31:35 UTC  

I don't think a most adults have an arbiter. It is fine for a kid to be taught right from wrong by their parents but the idea of having a child is for them to grow in to their own person. Yes politicians can use shame to sway public opinion. It's a good thing we have elections then.

2018-08-28 17:32:27 UTC  

I couldn't care less what my politician thinks is right. Jacob Rees-Mogg is a c

2018-08-28 17:33:04 UTC  

Christian, he think abortion is wrong. I don't agree with him but I still wouldn't mind him running the country.

2018-08-28 17:33:11 UTC  

I would pull out the term impressing.

2018-08-28 17:34:46 UTC  

Part of Parenting and Religion in general is to impress some ideas and standards into a child so they develope Morals that are in line with the community Ethic standard.

2018-08-28 17:36:32 UTC  

That is why so many religous texts are concerned with standards of conduct and spend time explaining in "Moral of the story format" why they preach those standards

2018-08-28 17:39:10 UTC  

How on earth could you codify 'ethics'? This is going to be different for everyone, even in a small community, not to mention on a country or global scale.