Message from @RyeNorth
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okay rye
@Deleted User Talking about people acting like cunts online thinking they are in the right and doing a good thing, well, thats nothing new, it's just the SM give these people a bigger audients to feed their ego. I wouldn't worry about those ppl too much.
That's a terrible starting point.
Is it important to humanity that we live ethically? Absolutely.
yea is nothing new i know, but the thing i am takling about is to replace the principles and values they are using in social media to sway people with the ones ethics teaches
I went to a science college, Ethic, Theology and Morality were part of the Arts minors. The only non-Arts Ethics courses were the legal courses in support of a science feild
But Ethics is more akin to art than to science.
Half the people the agree with them in public don't agree in private. Think back to your school days and all the back stabbing going on there. It's the same shit just on a bigger scale.
It's more of the shared art of human experience than it is to something that can be worked into equations, measured, and verified.
Yes, there's logic to it
"Ethics in Wildlife Research" was mostly about laws and conventions for how to conduct studies without violating principles that would risk acreditation or legal consiquense
but there's no scientific method that applies to ethics, morality, or philosophy.
in art school the teach ethics so you can define good and wrong pretty and grotesce is just a tool to define what you want to express
what rye
ethics is a branch of philosophy
Okay
you're going to have to define this heriarchy for me, then.
Philosophy is still an Art
Because you've already said that Ethics was a science with many branches.
Now Ethics is a branch of Philosophy.
Otherwise I'm throwing my arguments into the dark.
mathematics still an art?
logic still an art?
Logic is a tool.
philosophy means science
```philosophy (fĭ-lŏsˈə-fē)►
n. Love and pursuit of wisdom by intellectual means and moral self-discipline.
n. Investigation of the nature, causes, or principles of reality, knowledge, or values, based on logical reasoning rather than empirical methods.
n. A system of thought based on or involving such inquiry```
From the American Heritage dictionary.
okay so what i wanted to debate turned into something else
```philosophy
NOUN
1 noun The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.
1.1 A particular system of philosophical thought.
1.2 The study of the theoretical basis of a particular branch of knowledge or experience.
2A theory or attitude that acts as a guiding principle for behaviour.```
Oxford.
thanks for killing the debate
No problem. You don't seem to argue from a factual perspective, anyway.
If we are going to have a debate, it helps if everyone is on the same page
Saying that Philosophy is a science is a HUGE mistake.
That implies that there are absolute answers that are correct without variation.
Philosophy can and should NEVER be so rigid.
If you want to talk about Virtue Signaling, and the "Useful Idiots" pushing a particular set of ideas in the most underhanded means possible that is fine. We all just need to be on the same page when it comes to terms
A long time ago, science and Philiosy divided from the one path of intellectualism
You made an assertion that Ethics is a science. I challenged that assertion. If you want to debate ethics, that's absolutely fine