Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-08-28 18:02:45 UTC  

you're going to have to define this heriarchy for me, then.

2018-08-28 18:02:55 UTC  

Philosophy is still an Art

2018-08-28 18:02:59 UTC  

Because you've already said that Ethics was a science with many branches.

2018-08-28 18:03:12 UTC  

Now Ethics is a branch of Philosophy.

2018-08-28 18:03:21 UTC  

Draw me a flow chart, please.

2018-08-28 18:03:46 UTC  

Otherwise I'm throwing my arguments into the dark.

2018-08-28 18:03:49 UTC  

mathematics still an art?

2018-08-28 18:03:57 UTC  

logic still an art?

2018-08-28 18:04:05 UTC  

Logic is a tool.

2018-08-28 18:04:07 UTC  

philosophy means science

2018-08-28 18:04:49 UTC  

```philosophy (fĭ-lŏsˈə-fē)►
n. Love and pursuit of wisdom by intellectual means and moral self-discipline.
n. Investigation of the nature, causes, or principles of reality, knowledge, or values, based on logical reasoning rather than empirical methods.
n. A system of thought based on or involving such inquiry```

2018-08-28 18:05:03 UTC  

From the American Heritage dictionary.

2018-08-28 18:06:06 UTC  

okay so what i wanted to debate turned into something else

2018-08-28 18:06:29 UTC  

```philosophy
NOUN
1 noun The study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence, especially when considered as an academic discipline.

1.1 A particular system of philosophical thought.
1.2 The study of the theoretical basis of a particular branch of knowledge or experience.
2A theory or attitude that acts as a guiding principle for behaviour.```

2018-08-28 18:06:47 UTC  

Oxford.

2018-08-28 18:07:20 UTC  

thanks for killing the debate

2018-08-28 18:07:52 UTC  

No problem. You don't seem to argue from a factual perspective, anyway.

2018-08-28 18:08:24 UTC  

If we are going to have a debate, it helps if everyone is on the same page

2018-08-28 18:08:50 UTC  

Saying that Philosophy is a science is a HUGE mistake.

2018-08-28 18:09:22 UTC  

That implies that there are absolute answers that are correct without variation.

2018-08-28 18:09:38 UTC  

Philosophy can and should NEVER be so rigid.

2018-08-28 18:11:11 UTC  

If you want to talk about Virtue Signaling, and the "Useful Idiots" pushing a particular set of ideas in the most underhanded means possible that is fine. We all just need to be on the same page when it comes to terms

2018-08-28 18:12:49 UTC  

A long time ago, science and Philiosy divided from the one path of intellectualism

2018-08-28 18:12:53 UTC  

You made an assertion that Ethics is a science. I challenged that assertion. If you want to debate ethics, that's absolutely fine

2018-08-28 18:14:16 UTC  

But calling it a science, implying that there is a rigid scientific law that can govern it, is not the way to go about that argument.

2018-08-28 18:14:42 UTC  

Prior to the Age of Enlightment, Science and Philospy were one and the same, but over time Science became the laws of nature, and philisoy became the thoughts of nature

2018-08-28 18:15:00 UTC  

That's a far better explanation.

2018-08-28 18:17:13 UTC  

thas a method

2018-08-28 18:18:17 UTC  

Empirical is a good word to keep in mind.

2018-08-28 18:19:37 UTC  

...

2018-08-28 18:19:56 UTC  

According to a philiosphy class I am not guilty of the charges of Humanity.

2018-08-28 18:20:01 UTC  

~~Philosophy does not show up anywhere on that wikipedia page.~~

2018-08-28 18:20:09 UTC  

lol

2018-08-28 18:20:19 UTC  

wait

2018-08-28 18:20:38 UTC  

Fucking BRAVE search function...

2018-08-28 18:20:50 UTC  

I really need to switch my main browser...

2018-08-28 18:22:40 UTC  

Again a principle started before the Age of Reason