Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-09-12 20:16:57 UTC  

I'm now not putting 7 dollars back in

2018-09-12 20:17:12 UTC  

so you produce more than you consume

2018-09-12 20:17:40 UTC  

Yes, and then you store it

2018-09-12 20:17:47 UTC  

and this is harmful....

2018-09-12 20:17:48 UTC  

Or "hoard"

2018-09-12 20:17:59 UTC  

I would say no

2018-09-12 20:19:14 UTC  

Yes it is harmful coz no monetary exists in a vacume. More money will be printed to inlfate your saving aways or people will start trading in things they can get their on.

2018-09-12 20:19:51 UTC  

why?

2018-09-12 20:19:51 UTC  

So poppy

2018-09-12 20:19:58 UTC  

go on

2018-09-12 20:20:09 UTC  

The harm would arguably be in printing more money

2018-09-12 20:20:18 UTC  

Not in Hoarding it

2018-09-12 20:21:32 UTC  

Sorry BTW for dropping such a heavy topic and responding in blurbs. I got called for a delivery...

2018-09-12 20:21:34 UTC  

Unless you make a currency that can be infinitely devisable then yes. The population is going to grow so either the supply needs to grow or the value needs to grow.

2018-09-12 20:22:10 UTC  

If you hoard it, then value of each dollar goes up. At some point, in order to keep hoarding it, i'd need to produce everything i need myself, because otherwise i will need to pay out more than i get in because of the value increase of each piece of money

2018-09-12 20:22:16 UTC  

You did make an argument that lead to inflation, but I think the dispute is in causation

2018-09-12 20:22:26 UTC  

each piece of money i hoard, increases the value of traded money.

2018-09-12 20:22:44 UTC  

Grenades picking up what I'm laying down.

2018-09-12 20:23:08 UTC  

and i can only hoard money if i produce more than I consume, value wise, or i don't consume.

2018-09-12 20:23:26 UTC  

which means i need to produce more for each piece of money i hoard

2018-09-12 20:23:30 UTC  

Bingo

2018-09-12 20:23:55 UTC  

or, i need to stop consuming

2018-09-12 20:24:39 UTC  

You are talking about deflation.

2018-09-12 20:24:44 UTC  

basically

2018-09-12 20:25:09 UTC  

Can someone tell me whats wrong with deflation?

2018-09-12 20:25:23 UTC  

Depends on your goals

2018-09-12 20:25:33 UTC  

the only problem becomes how small you can divide your currency

2018-09-12 20:26:00 UTC  

but this is the problem of currency, its imaginary placeholder for the real value of stuff

2018-09-12 20:26:08 UTC  

If you want to spur growth it's bad, but I'm not convinced artificial growth is good

2018-09-12 20:26:10 UTC  

Yes, you need an infinitely devisable currency.

2018-09-12 20:26:35 UTC  

And?

2018-09-12 20:27:39 UTC  

It's called trade. After a year of deflation you will quickly find out you can't afford anything from the people over the river.

2018-09-12 20:28:35 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-12 20:28:57 UTC  

hang on. I know this one.

2018-09-12 20:30:06 UTC  

>stores will sell products nobody is buying

2018-09-12 20:30:24 UTC  

I don't understand

2018-09-12 20:31:02 UTC  

you can go down to there being only 1 dollar in the system, people will just rip the dollar in 2, now you have 2 half dollars

2018-09-12 20:31:48 UTC  

or someone will start using something else as a new currency, or just trade directly tit for tat

2018-09-12 20:32:17 UTC  

Sorry I've that wrong up there.

2018-09-12 20:32:17 UTC  

the worst that can happen is everyone is just focused on providing for themselves and no-one else.

2018-09-12 20:32:31 UTC  

I used to know all this stuff.