Message from @Beemann

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2018-09-12 20:11:35 UTC  

do i need to pay with money?

2018-09-12 20:11:41 UTC  

There's 1000 dollars in the economy. I hoard 100 dollars of it. Only 900 dollars can be traded

2018-09-12 20:11:44 UTC  

why can't i do something for someone in exchange for food?

2018-09-12 20:11:56 UTC  

^^

2018-09-12 20:12:07 UTC  

Why is the economy going to fail now?

2018-09-12 20:12:18 UTC  

You could, grenade

2018-09-12 20:12:20 UTC  

You can't charge more than someone is willing to pay

2018-09-12 20:12:32 UTC  

Or rather more than anyone is willing

2018-09-12 20:12:43 UTC  

But what reason do you have to do something for someone who has nothing you want?

2018-09-12 20:12:47 UTC  

Or you won't trade

2018-09-12 20:13:23 UTC  

That's the role money fills. It's essentially a shape-shifting good.

2018-09-12 20:14:35 UTC  

Currency would have to scale to what the economy allows

2018-09-12 20:15:32 UTC  

how does one hoard money?

2018-09-12 20:15:46 UTC  

that would imply doing things for people, but people giving you stuff for free

2018-09-12 20:16:20 UTC  

No

2018-09-12 20:16:25 UTC  

How does one hoard rocks?

2018-09-12 20:16:27 UTC  

you get paid for your labor, but you don't pay people for their labor

2018-09-12 20:16:43 UTC  

I sell a product for 10 dollars, I spend 1 dollar on food I spend 2 dollars on services. I keep the rest

2018-09-12 20:16:57 UTC  

I'm now not putting 7 dollars back in

2018-09-12 20:17:12 UTC  

so you produce more than you consume

2018-09-12 20:17:40 UTC  

Yes, and then you store it

2018-09-12 20:17:47 UTC  

and this is harmful....

2018-09-12 20:17:48 UTC  

Or "hoard"

2018-09-12 20:17:59 UTC  

I would say no

2018-09-12 20:19:14 UTC  

Yes it is harmful coz no monetary exists in a vacume. More money will be printed to inlfate your saving aways or people will start trading in things they can get their on.

2018-09-12 20:19:51 UTC  

why?

2018-09-12 20:19:51 UTC  

So poppy

2018-09-12 20:19:58 UTC  

go on

2018-09-12 20:20:09 UTC  

The harm would arguably be in printing more money

2018-09-12 20:20:18 UTC  

Not in Hoarding it

2018-09-12 20:21:32 UTC  

Sorry BTW for dropping such a heavy topic and responding in blurbs. I got called for a delivery...

2018-09-12 20:21:34 UTC  

Unless you make a currency that can be infinitely devisable then yes. The population is going to grow so either the supply needs to grow or the value needs to grow.

2018-09-12 20:22:10 UTC  

If you hoard it, then value of each dollar goes up. At some point, in order to keep hoarding it, i'd need to produce everything i need myself, because otherwise i will need to pay out more than i get in because of the value increase of each piece of money

2018-09-12 20:22:16 UTC  

You did make an argument that lead to inflation, but I think the dispute is in causation

2018-09-12 20:22:26 UTC  

each piece of money i hoard, increases the value of traded money.

2018-09-12 20:22:44 UTC  

Grenades picking up what I'm laying down.

2018-09-12 20:23:08 UTC  

and i can only hoard money if i produce more than I consume, value wise, or i don't consume.

2018-09-12 20:23:26 UTC  

which means i need to produce more for each piece of money i hoard

2018-09-12 20:23:30 UTC  

Bingo

2018-09-12 20:23:55 UTC  

or, i need to stop consuming

2018-09-12 20:24:39 UTC  

You are talking about deflation.