Message from @Arch-Fiend
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Well, its also... hard to organize shit
Im talking shit like censors. ANd the fact that google stepping in to help the chinese govt
Yes, let this be a lesson.
First they came for the asians, and I did not speak out, for I was not an asian
Then they came for the europeans, and I did not speak out, for I was not a european
I mean only the japs
-Americans
Oh yeah, all those japanese people in china lmao
I thought you were talking america
Well, china is authoritarian to the core.
Sure it aint commie as much anymore. But, it still is authoritharian as fuck.
And they have very very little culture to speak of. Theres chinese overseas who have retained more of their culture than the mainlanders.
Thank Mao's cultural revolution for that
er chinese culture was surpressed, by no means was it destroyed, theyve bounced back extordinarally
So the communist party is trying to rediscover traditional chinese culture right now.
Not sure how successful it's been, but they've been pushing that direction as I understand.
its doing pretty well
That's something I always found interesting. whenever I talk to people from Asia, they do worry about "loss of culture" which is something the US and Europe seem completely unconcerned with.
westerners have a tendency to fall more on the extremes of progress and traditional than asians
Do you have a source or do you just think that?
I mean, do you have a source of someone who went and measured this or is it just a hunch?
I have a feeling it's more to do with the cultural elite disregarding the traditional cultures of the west and denigrating people who might revel in any element of it /r/Murica is satire.
im pretty much just speaking from stereotypes
the chinese communists also had a bit of a different philosophy for progress than the west has had. for them it was purely territorialistic, kinda like japan had during the maji but to a more severe degree
to mao, not leaping forward made china volnerible to outside influinces in a way that would ultimately lead to the destruction of china
for us in the west, theres a degree of self defensive progress, but a lot of our progress has also just been driven by individualistic pursutes by the wealthy elite driving the culture through trickle down
i get the impression that china has never been a very heavly controled place, even during the most crushing years of communism, actual influince over what the population thinks was likely focused only among the citys, and everyone else starved beleving whatever they wanted to beleive
its just that people never really needed much control over china in order to get the population to follow authority
"The Chinese literally have a line in the constitution guaranteeing the people the right to freedom of speech. But they added a couple exceptions to it and simply don't have it."
thats how Canada works too, just as an FYI
I'm not so sure of that assertion. Classical Chinese society wasn't as uniform as people think, but it could still be exceptionally brutal. The idea of territorial progress was the norm in the early 1900s everywhere, particularly in the west. The big difference that people tend to isolate is a difference in individualism versus collectivism.
But I'm not sure that quite explains why the Asian cultures are more traditional when it comes to culture and are more interested in protecting it.
i actually said it wasent uniform
China technically has religious freedom too. At least on paper. The reality is a bit different.
China has religious freedom, but terms and conditions apply
Religious freedom if that religion is not a mental disorder
Dude, they basically killed off the dalai lama.
I am a bit afraid that leftist in the west will follow china
I posted this
>When leftist want to follow china's example of calling dalai lama a nazi and should be killed just to own the right wingers
then again,
I do know some maoist who would defend and deny about what is china doing....
And then saying that donald trump or some alt right is much worse??
You're not the only one. I'm personally very bothered by the turn against free speech and the way they seem completely disinterested int he other amendments also (like the 2nd or the 4th)