Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-09-15 18:44:10 UTC  

Or inefficient.

2018-09-15 18:44:32 UTC  

The US is so full of double agents already it's probably not possible to really rout it all out.

2018-09-15 18:45:07 UTC  

Heck, during the cold war, entire segments of the British intelligence services were in the employ of the Soviets or full of soviet sympathizers.

2018-09-15 18:45:18 UTC  

The US is full of such people too.

2018-09-15 18:45:39 UTC  

It's weird because SJWs hate China, but love the policies China put into place

2018-09-15 18:45:58 UTC  

"A protected internet where people can't say things the state disapprove of? Yeah! I love it!"

2018-09-15 18:46:03 UTC  

Because yknow

2018-09-15 18:46:40 UTC  

Fabulous protected speech and all

2018-09-15 18:47:30 UTC  

So funny story. The Chinese constitution protects freedom of speech...

2018-09-15 18:48:29 UTC  

Hahahaha

2018-09-15 18:48:44 UTC  

The Chinese government protect free speech about as well as they protect child workers

2018-09-15 18:48:57 UTC  

Yeah, but let it sink in for a second.

2018-09-15 18:49:24 UTC  

Just because you have piece of paper that is supposed to be the social contract that guarantees you something *does not mean* you will get it.

2018-09-15 18:49:43 UTC  

Which is why this freedom of speech stuff in the US, UK and EU is so damn important.

2018-09-15 18:50:21 UTC  

The Chinese literally have a line in the constitution guaranteeing the people the right to freedom of speech. But they added a couple exceptions to it and simply don't have it.

2018-09-15 18:55:47 UTC  

And it aint like the US where the populace can do shit about it

2018-09-15 18:57:59 UTC  

technicly the chinese population could do something about it, but not in a time of prosparity

2018-09-15 18:58:25 UTC  

and really they will require a political fragmentation

2018-09-15 18:59:02 UTC  

china does nothing without a leader

2018-09-15 18:59:09 UTC  

Well, its also... hard to organize shit

2018-09-15 18:59:38 UTC  

Im talking shit like censors. ANd the fact that google stepping in to help the chinese govt

2018-09-15 19:01:06 UTC  

Yes, let this be a lesson.

2018-09-15 19:01:23 UTC  

First they came for the asians, and I did not speak out, for I was not an asian

2018-09-15 19:01:35 UTC  

Then they came for the europeans, and I did not speak out, for I was not a european

2018-09-15 19:01:37 UTC  

I mean only the japs

2018-09-15 19:01:41 UTC  

-Americans

2018-09-15 19:01:54 UTC  

Oh yeah, all those japanese people in china lmao

2018-09-15 19:02:05 UTC  

I thought you were talking america

2018-09-15 19:02:18 UTC  

Well, china is authoritarian to the core.

2018-09-15 19:02:38 UTC  

Sure it aint commie as much anymore. But, it still is authoritharian as fuck.

2018-09-15 19:03:19 UTC  

And they have very very little culture to speak of. Theres chinese overseas who have retained more of their culture than the mainlanders.

2018-09-15 19:03:33 UTC  

Thank Mao's cultural revolution for that

2018-09-15 19:06:17 UTC  

er chinese culture was surpressed, by no means was it destroyed, theyve bounced back extordinarally

2018-09-15 19:06:38 UTC  

So the communist party is trying to rediscover traditional chinese culture right now.

2018-09-15 19:06:51 UTC  

Not sure how successful it's been, but they've been pushing that direction as I understand.

2018-09-15 19:07:04 UTC  

its doing pretty well

2018-09-15 19:07:41 UTC  

That's something I always found interesting. whenever I talk to people from Asia, they do worry about "loss of culture" which is something the US and Europe seem completely unconcerned with.

2018-09-15 19:08:51 UTC  

westerners have a tendency to fall more on the extremes of progress and traditional than asians

2018-09-15 19:09:22 UTC  

Do you have a source or do you just think that?

2018-09-15 19:09:50 UTC  

messure progressiveness and traditionalistness

2018-09-15 19:10:12 UTC  

I mean, do you have a source of someone who went and measured this or is it just a hunch?