Message from @Jes
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@NativeInterface they are known as useful idiots
hitler didnt do much wrong according to regular statist standards
double nuking japan and agent orange and forced sterilizations and inhumane medical experiments and depleted uranium is just normal things that a lot of statists defend tirelessly to this day
@Jes Well that just goes back to your point about people having a hole in them that religion tends to fill. I think we are seeing today that even in cases where communism isn't cramed into that hole people grab it and put it in there anyway.
@grant its easy to justify murdering people when you only care about the whole not the component people of the state
@NativeInterface statistically speaking the double nuke was the option leading to the least loss of life. And it wasn't America's job to ensure their enemies lived, only that they (and their allies) survived. a governments job is to protect it's people
@Jes Yeah, I think that shows also that Judea-Christian value play a part in making sure we don't do that and that its not in our nature.
yeah see what i mean
heck i had an argument with a close friend about if torture is bad or not
I didnt say it was moraly right
thats a tough one
so yeah if all thats excusable than why not hitler
yeah fire bombing and nuking japan...
he's pretty mainstream really
again because the National Socialist workers party didnt care about individuals only the state
I also did not mean to imply it was excusable
i think public education plays a big role in causing that
maybe the biggest
public education in the UK is just indoctrination now
Nazis and Communist just disagree on which type of collectivization is best.
I won't comment on the other things because I agree they're outright wrong but why bring up the nukes in Japan? Drawing a parallel between the nukes and Nazi germany would have a point if you're only talking in terms of mass murder but actions don't happen in a bubble. Dropping nukes on Japan to end the war is obviously more justifiable than rounding up millions of Jews for a mass genocide unless you accept the premise that Jews did something to deserve negative treatment
it was never a left/right divide
yeah exploiting whole nation like commies
or good for whole collective like national socialims.
What's going on in school in the UK?
i think a lot of people today miss the historical point that germans were just educated into being nazis, they were normies in that society
just painting them as the bad guys is a big disservice to the lessons of history and keeps people ignorant
WW2 didn't happen in a vacuum either. The war wasn't started over Jews. Many German felt wronged over WW1 and felt they were reclaiming what was rightfully theirs (from the Allies).
@grant 6 year olds being indoctrinated into the LGBT(ect) mindset - and here they can take your child away if you don't think the kid is trans
you the parent that is
so even if your opinion is wait untilk they are an adult (18) or until their prefrontal cortex is developed (25) thats child abuse
and we dont have a 1st or 2nd amendment
The war wasn't started over Jews but if we're talking about statism and the state exercising its monopoly on violence and "how can you justify one type of state violence over another" then yes, bringing up the Nazis and the Jews is a perfectly valid point.
WW2 was brought against germany because germany escaped international banking system.(jewish banking system)
@Jes Does the government pay for sex change stuff of the minor in the UK?
if not this should be moved to 'Fake News' 😛
nope.
germany was in massive depth after WW1
that depth was over twice of value of germany.
and germany decided to make their own monetary banking system.
the taxpayer does
without the choice