Message from @samoja
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Jesus WAS a Jew.
Wasn't he killed by the Pharisees?
There is fair bit of evidence pointing to the fact Jesus never even existed in the first place
In Jewish religion Jeshua was sort of god's high priest, mirroring the high priest of temple in Jerusalem, at the time Christianity arose there were so called salvation cults that basically took the Greek idea of afterlife and mixed it with local deity, those salvation cults follow a certain pattern and Christianity fits within it almost perfectly
almost all, if not all religions of the world follow such pattern
Almost all of those religions arose from Christianity
So I saw the interview Benjamin did with Bannon, and Bannon (roughly) said the average citizen is not responsible for the economic crisis in north Africa and the middle east.
But is that right? Aren't the people to blame for partaking in a predatory economic tactics that they benefit from?
Of course people don't always have all the information on where the stuff they buy comes from or what economy they might be destroying, but when the shoes you buy are dirt cheap I doubt you don't guess in the back of your head that someone is being exploited...
Well iphones arent dirt cheap and if u wanna go down that resource line
same can be said about computers
i mean i can decide to not buy the obvious things
I would like a definition of what exactly the exploitation is. Does it apply to all product exported from economically weaker countries ?
The fact is most people can't in fact afford to buy things that are not cheap, principles are costly, not everyone can afford them
^that is definately another part of it
+from our standards child labour is totally unethical
but not even that long ago, over here child labour was not only expected but required if u wanted to survive
doesnt mean i agree with multinationals going across the world and then paying people a nickel & dime for 14 hour shifts.
but at the same time those child labour bans makes childs more vournable to illegal economy.
beacause legal ones cant hire them. and if parents cant/wont rise them. what they are supposed to do.
But thats not really an issue in modern western countries jasse
yeah. but in those third world countries. that we are "exploiting"
we cant expect same standards from third world coutnries.
There is a reason why we got rid of it tho, let's not pretend past was all rosy, exploitation of the workers was rife, 18 hour work days 7 days a week, meager salary, non existent safety regulations, at one point 200 people died in a fire because the company manager locked the exit to prevent people from taking a break. Everything in oderation.
no its not at all it was a horrible time
or countless kids dying during the weaving boom
or losing fingers, hands etc
But what was it before? no salary at all
capitalism as its finest.
No, what we ave now is capitalism at it's finest, that was capitalism gone mad
history is one giant awfull bloodbath with some sparks of brilliance mixed into it
Yeah...
It's a miracle when you go outside and everything isn't on fire.
what we have now is not capitalism at its finest tho
but i agree that that is also the case back then
@samoja sure people can't afford ethically produced things now, but there was a certain period in time where the local produced things lost the market battle against the global produced things, and that was the time people usually talk about with fond memories because everything suddenly was very cheap
Well, finest when compared to all that came before it, and when i say now i should clarify i mean 5the last 30 odd years
certain things still are very cheap
but in the last 30 years, even longer samoja
look at the productivity vs wages
I know that, you don't need to tell me, labor is a comodity, just like any other, but people don't realize that.
well i wonder what changed in the 1970s for people suddenly to stop realizing that
im sure ive read it at some point but i cant remember
People want others to take care of them, they don't want to take responsibility for their own life, if your boss is underpaying you seek anothr job or get educated and change careers.