But you defended that because it's voting

how is it lazy

So going somewhere to mindlessly check a box is fine, that's not lazy?

to vote

Because you didn't put any thought into it

i did i didnt want either in office so i put my vote there

thats the point

If I give you a tractor and you don't know how it works, and you just start doing shit randomly, is that better than sitting still because you didn't know how it works?
That's not what I said, read the example

thats a intirely different beast

Nah m8, you weren't lazy and made a change

It doesn't matter that you rammed the tractor into a tree

no i dont know to fix a tractor

thats the difference lol

i know where i wantchange

You also probably don't know all the ins and outs of politics and the economy

no but majprtiy of a maerica doesnt we vote for simple thigns we want

and if you dont want to vote to get those changes then thats on you

And someone who isn't paying attention to the issues and picks a name at random definitely doesn't know

But you've defended the virtue of their "effort"

example i wanted gay rights so i voted obama both times

at least u guys have a right to vote

i have a duty to vote

if i dont i can get fined

no matter how utter garbage the candidates are

oz?

i dont get the case you made @Beemann to not vote eqauls right to complain

If I have a contest and you join knowing the terms of the contest, why do you get to complain when it doesn't go your way?

Just sounds like a sore loser tbh

i joined there the reason why i get to

You made a contradictory statement

"I don't, but I do"

If I have a contest and you agree to the terms and then complain when you don't get your way, are you not just a sore loser?

wsorry started typing while i had a head thought

Oh ok

i can complain cause i contibuted to the contest

so i get to compalin if i feel i was unfairly judged

Why do you get to complain? You didn't build anything

You participated, you lost

The system worked, it did not go your way

your examples make no sense

If we have a contest for say, a cash prize, and you win, and I start bitching about it, I'm just being a sore loser, no?