Message from @Beemann

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2018-10-19 18:43:23 UTC  

But you defended spoiled ballots, and losing votes, which don't do that

2018-10-19 18:43:59 UTC  

becuase you are still contributing to the voting process

2018-10-19 18:44:46 UTC  

What does voting for Harambe contribute?

2018-10-19 18:45:16 UTC  

becuase that shows you dont support either canidayes

2018-10-19 18:45:21 UTC  

The argument is 'You don;t have a right to complain if you don't vote'. I disagree, if you are so frustrated with politics that you can't find a single party to vote for that means that their is no one out there that you think is willing to act in your interest and you can complain about that.
Voting third party is a better way of showing your frustration than not voting as you can't be distinguished from someone that doesn't care.
You have a right to complain coz it is the parties fault for not engaging enough with the populous.

2018-10-19 18:45:26 UTC  

No it just shows you spoiled a ballot

2018-10-19 18:45:43 UTC  

no you said make a stand

2018-10-19 18:45:45 UTC  

Just like not voting just shows you didn't vote

2018-10-19 18:45:59 UTC  

Both can mean that you disapprove of the available candidates

2018-10-19 18:46:01 UTC  

no it shows lazyness

2018-10-19 18:46:13 UTC  

So does picking the first name on a list

2018-10-19 18:46:19 UTC  

But you defended that because it's voting

2018-10-19 18:46:34 UTC  

how is it lazy

2018-10-19 18:46:38 UTC  

So going somewhere to mindlessly check a box is fine, that's not lazy?

2018-10-19 18:46:39 UTC  

to vote

2018-10-19 18:46:49 UTC  

Because you didn't put any thought into it

2018-10-19 18:47:13 UTC  

i did i didnt want either in office so i put my vote there

2018-10-19 18:47:22 UTC  

thats the point

2018-10-19 18:47:36 UTC  

If I give you a tractor and you don't know how it works, and you just start doing shit randomly, is that better than sitting still because you didn't know how it works?
That's not what I said, read the example

2018-10-19 18:48:19 UTC  

thats a intirely different beast

2018-10-19 18:48:34 UTC  

Nah m8, you weren't lazy and made a change

2018-10-19 18:48:41 UTC  

It doesn't matter that you rammed the tractor into a tree

2018-10-19 18:48:51 UTC  

no i dont know to fix a tractor

2018-10-19 18:49:01 UTC  

thats the difference lol

2018-10-19 18:49:12 UTC  

i know where i wantchange

2018-10-19 18:49:17 UTC  

You also probably don't know all the ins and outs of politics and the economy

2018-10-19 18:49:52 UTC  

no but majprtiy of a maerica doesnt we vote for simple thigns we want

2018-10-19 18:50:28 UTC  

and if you dont want to vote to get those changes then thats on you

2018-10-19 18:50:30 UTC  

And someone who isn't paying attention to the issues and picks a name at random definitely doesn't know

2018-10-19 18:50:43 UTC  

But you've defended the virtue of their "effort"

2018-10-19 18:50:48 UTC  

example i wanted gay rights so i voted obama both times

2018-10-19 18:51:16 UTC  

at least u guys have a right to vote

2018-10-19 18:51:24 UTC  

i have a duty to vote

2018-10-19 18:51:32 UTC  

if i dont i can get fined

2018-10-19 18:51:42 UTC  

no matter how utter garbage the candidates are

2018-10-19 18:52:15 UTC  

oz?

2018-10-19 18:53:24 UTC  

i dont get the case you made @Beemann to not vote eqauls right to complain

2018-10-19 18:54:18 UTC  

If I have a contest and you join knowing the terms of the contest, why do you get to complain when it doesn't go your way?

2018-10-19 18:54:57 UTC  

Just sounds like a sore loser tbh

2018-10-19 18:55:01 UTC  

i joined there the reason why i get to

2018-10-19 18:55:15 UTC  

You made a contradictory statement