Message from @Aktriaz

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2018-10-24 18:04:28 UTC  

I would say an atheist is someone who does not think that there is an existence of a God or Divine

2018-10-24 18:10:32 UTC  

you do kinda get into semantics when going into the existence of a "god" as described by monotheistic religions, specifically the omnipotent ones

if god IS all-powerful and all-knowing, then god is not sentient. you cannot think if you already know what you're about to think. such a being cannot have intent, for it's intent is literal reality.

god as both a sentient and all-powerful being is illogical.

if we define god as merely existence, then there is very little weight to worshipping such a being

2018-10-24 18:12:43 UTC  

im atheist.
And i dont have any other thing common with other athieists that i dont belive in god or divine.
its not religion by the definiton.
and being athiest as it self is not radical by the defenition

2018-10-24 18:14:03 UTC  

I would argue that a more controversial standpoint would be to be atheist but also reject the concept of evolution as fact

2018-10-24 18:15:06 UTC  

Many christians that I have interacted with automatically assume your atheism means you are an evolutionist

2018-10-24 18:16:04 UTC  

the biggest problem atheists have in the religion debate is the assumption that god does not exist. in truth, landing on such a conclusion is irrational. we do not know for certain.

but, if we take it to it's logical conclusion, all-powerful and all-knowing are mutually exclusive with sentience

2018-10-24 18:16:46 UTC  

Also Christianity isn't monotheistic, it is a Trinity

2018-10-24 18:17:00 UTC  

I would argue against that, its not irrational,

Its what that whole flying spaghetti monster argument comes from,

You don't believe it exists, cuz theres 0 evidence for it either,
Hence atheists don't believe in god cuz theres 0 evidence

2018-10-24 18:17:19 UTC  

And religions like Hinduism still have an ultimate God from which all other deities are derived.

2018-10-24 18:17:35 UTC  

its not illogical.
my default just is that its not true until proven otherwise.

2018-10-24 18:17:45 UTC  

I believe God to be the representation for the totality of existence.

2018-10-24 18:18:03 UTC  

God is the complete wholeness of existence that existed before Time and the Universe

2018-10-24 18:18:04 UTC  

Why does it have to be God?

2018-10-24 18:18:11 UTC  

god is disgusting then. he farts several thousand times per second

2018-10-24 18:18:22 UTC  

😛

2018-10-24 18:18:41 UTC  

Can existence not just be existence?

2018-10-24 18:19:21 UTC  

"wholeness of existence"? that existed _before_ time and space?

what do you mean by this?

2018-10-24 18:19:22 UTC  

God is the totality of existence

2018-10-24 18:19:33 UTC  

In your opinion

2018-10-24 18:19:50 UTC  

if god is everything then god is not sentient

2018-10-24 18:20:17 UTC  

god is the sum of all information in the universe

2018-10-24 18:20:18 UTC  

There was an infentesible amount of "time" at the beginning of the existence before space and time were distinct entities

2018-10-24 18:20:29 UTC  

@Dvir do you belive something can be eternal?

2018-10-24 18:20:40 UTC  

Only what comes before time is eternal

2018-10-24 18:20:51 UTC  

my dick is eternal 😉

2018-10-24 18:20:57 UTC  

As it exists perpetually

2018-10-24 18:21:07 UTC  

*Hypostasis*

2018-10-24 18:21:48 UTC  

so you belive god have always existed?
but universe cant be always existed?

2018-10-24 18:22:12 UTC  

That is the general Christian worldview

2018-10-24 18:22:30 UTC  

The difference is that God did not create the Universe

2018-10-24 18:22:55 UTC  

The Universe is the result of complete totality coming into contact with absolute nothingness.

2018-10-24 18:23:26 UTC  

It is as light is, it always seeks darkness to fill.

2018-10-24 18:24:21 UTC  

Those things could never have existed logically

2018-10-24 18:24:36 UTC  

why you think there have to be starting point?
Why there have to be nothingness before universe came to be?
why it cant just be always been there?

2018-10-24 18:24:37 UTC  

The Universe lies below the Aeons (divine realms fashioned in conscious thought) and is personified as the being Yaldabaoth, the great balancer/

2018-10-24 18:25:01 UTC  

Complete totality could never have been seperate in order to come into contact with absolute nothingness

2018-10-24 18:25:18 UTC  

going to deep into theism here

can't really apply and logic here

2018-10-24 18:25:37 UTC  

Because the existence of something automatically destroys the existence of nothingness

2018-10-24 18:25:51 UTC  

semantics

2018-10-24 18:26:00 UTC  

what is nothing?

what is something?

2018-10-24 18:26:01 UTC  

If there is only something, there isn't everything.