Message from @PerformedShelf

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2018-10-24 17:42:56 UTC  

There is no low the DNC would go.

2018-10-24 17:56:25 UTC  

Heres an argument

2018-10-24 17:56:58 UTC  

Atheism is a fundamentally flawed and weak religion.

2018-10-24 17:57:20 UTC  

And it is a religion

2018-10-24 17:57:46 UTC  

It is an ideological stance on the existence of God and the nature of reality.

2018-10-24 17:58:00 UTC  

It is a religion with role of refuting religion.

2018-10-24 17:58:33 UTC  

If you are familiar with 40k, atheism can almost be personified by the fifth Chaos God Malal.

2018-10-24 18:00:18 UTC  

It is flawed and weak because it is the rejection of a higher reality beyond the material. The fervent of Atheists are just as zealous and dogmatic as any other religious radical.

2018-10-24 18:01:47 UTC  

An atheist isn't like an agnostic who I would better describe as secularists, since they largely remove themselves from religion.

2018-10-24 18:02:21 UTC  

Organised atheists discussing their reasoning does not mean all atheists are organised and behave the way youre saying

2018-10-24 18:02:42 UTC  

No, but atheism also leaves people morally lacking.

2018-10-24 18:02:55 UTC  

That is an opinion, not a statement of fact

2018-10-24 18:02:58 UTC  

Which either leads to nihilism or another radical ideology that co-opts the place of religion

2018-10-24 18:02:59 UTC  

can you define atheist?
your definiton seems bit odd.

2018-10-24 18:03:31 UTC  

An atheist is one who rejects the existence of God and the Divine.

2018-10-24 18:04:24 UTC  

I would personally argue that those who lack belief in religion aren't atheists, only those who disbelieve in religion are.

2018-10-24 18:04:28 UTC  

I would say an atheist is someone who does not think that there is an existence of a God or Divine

2018-10-24 18:10:32 UTC  

you do kinda get into semantics when going into the existence of a "god" as described by monotheistic religions, specifically the omnipotent ones

if god IS all-powerful and all-knowing, then god is not sentient. you cannot think if you already know what you're about to think. such a being cannot have intent, for it's intent is literal reality.

god as both a sentient and all-powerful being is illogical.

if we define god as merely existence, then there is very little weight to worshipping such a being

2018-10-24 18:12:43 UTC  

im atheist.
And i dont have any other thing common with other athieists that i dont belive in god or divine.
its not religion by the definiton.
and being athiest as it self is not radical by the defenition

2018-10-24 18:14:03 UTC  

I would argue that a more controversial standpoint would be to be atheist but also reject the concept of evolution as fact

2018-10-24 18:15:06 UTC  

Many christians that I have interacted with automatically assume your atheism means you are an evolutionist

2018-10-24 18:16:04 UTC  

the biggest problem atheists have in the religion debate is the assumption that god does not exist. in truth, landing on such a conclusion is irrational. we do not know for certain.

but, if we take it to it's logical conclusion, all-powerful and all-knowing are mutually exclusive with sentience

2018-10-24 18:16:46 UTC  

Also Christianity isn't monotheistic, it is a Trinity

2018-10-24 18:17:00 UTC  

I would argue against that, its not irrational,

Its what that whole flying spaghetti monster argument comes from,

You don't believe it exists, cuz theres 0 evidence for it either,
Hence atheists don't believe in god cuz theres 0 evidence

2018-10-24 18:17:19 UTC  

And religions like Hinduism still have an ultimate God from which all other deities are derived.

2018-10-24 18:17:35 UTC  

its not illogical.
my default just is that its not true until proven otherwise.

2018-10-24 18:17:45 UTC  

I believe God to be the representation for the totality of existence.

2018-10-24 18:18:03 UTC  

God is the complete wholeness of existence that existed before Time and the Universe

2018-10-24 18:18:04 UTC  

Why does it have to be God?

2018-10-24 18:18:11 UTC  

god is disgusting then. he farts several thousand times per second

2018-10-24 18:18:22 UTC  

😛

2018-10-24 18:18:41 UTC  

Can existence not just be existence?

2018-10-24 18:19:21 UTC  

"wholeness of existence"? that existed _before_ time and space?

what do you mean by this?

2018-10-24 18:19:22 UTC  

God is the totality of existence

2018-10-24 18:19:33 UTC  

In your opinion

2018-10-24 18:19:50 UTC  

if god is everything then god is not sentient

2018-10-24 18:20:17 UTC  

god is the sum of all information in the universe

2018-10-24 18:20:18 UTC  

There was an infentesible amount of "time" at the beginning of the existence before space and time were distinct entities

2018-10-24 18:20:29 UTC  

@Dvir do you belive something can be eternal?

2018-10-24 18:20:40 UTC  

Only what comes before time is eternal

2018-10-24 18:20:51 UTC  

my dick is eternal 😉