Message from @Objet
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Can words be violent
can property destruction be violent
Yes.
You can shout words really loudly really close to people's ears and hurt them.
Or you can cause a lot more damage a lot more easily with a loudspeaker.
I mean like the people who think that me speaking in a certain tone means I'm being violent
No.
yeah, nah
you're not the dovahkiin
wth is so wrong with blackfacing?
e.g. in austria the "3 kings" that visited jesus, go around and sing at your door
one of them is usually blackfaced
same in germany
Because people took some of the American history of skin darkening, minstrel shows, divorced it from historical context and now claim that any attempt to darken one's skin is blackface.
@mer.at black face used to be a very specific style of panting a face, usually made to make fun of black people. It usually evolved leaving lots of skin still showing around the eyes and mouth to try and exaggerate a monkey style look.
this has ballooned to trying to look anything other than your race is now racist
Megyn clearly thought blackface simply meant a white person using makeup to look like a black person, she clearly didn't know there was connotation to racist minstrel shows.
We no longer look at a persons intent with there words.
She blasphemed so she must be punished.
i feel part of her confusion may come from the recent incident where people accused producers of using black face. http://www.tmz.com/2018/08/01/good-boys-child-actor-stand-in-blackface-keith-l-williams/
To be fair, that's not realyl common usage anymore
Black face _is_ "darkening skin"
Even the article Tim read specified it that way
nah, blackface still refers to the racist caricature
using it for any darkening of skin is unhelpful
I'm not going to argue whether it _should_
Or whether people should be educated on a more accurate usage
That is just how people in fact use it
It may have started metaphorically (i.e. "That is _like_ blackface") but has slowly shifted to just being the term for it
apart from troll blogs and some more out-of-touch social justice ppl, i've only ever seen it used for the caricature
would be interesting to see a study among different crowds as to what they understand under the term
Fair enough
It's honestly a bit of an esoteric term, so most people probably don't know what it is
But the usage has been consistent in the media
valid
probably a good sign if most people don't know about it
So if blackface is the darkening of the skin, is tanning blackface?
Actully yes. There have been articles written about how much tan can you have before it's considered appropriation.
No way is this a real thing
NBC wanted Megan Kelly out because her ratings dropped this was just an excuse to look better and get rid of her
I really don't like it. I have been Megan Kelly'd before.