Message from @Atkins

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2018-10-27 01:54:50 UTC  

The number of deaths are disproportionately islam yes, but that wasn’t the point i was making

2018-10-27 01:54:50 UTC  

it's interesting that there are more right-wing incidents, and of those fewer are foiled, but islamists still manage to get a higher death toll

2018-10-27 01:54:59 UTC  

right-wingers suck ass at terrorism, it seems

2018-10-27 01:55:08 UTC  

doesn't stop their enthusiasm, sadly

2018-10-27 01:55:20 UTC  

What's the bigger concern? Frequent ineffective attacks or a few big ones?

2018-10-27 01:55:23 UTC  

I simply stated that 74% of terrorist attacks in the last 10 years were from white right wing extremists

2018-10-27 01:55:40 UTC  

You didn't state a time period til I mentioned the ADL admission of death toll

2018-10-27 01:56:03 UTC  

I'm going to contest the idea of something like a hate crime being listed as a terrorist attack.

2018-10-27 01:56:17 UTC  

And I mentioned the study that number came from is faulty

2018-10-27 01:56:23 UTC  

Wether it be 10 years or since 9/11, the figures would look similar

2018-10-27 01:56:33 UTC  

As they group crimes or murders by white supremicists terror

2018-10-27 01:56:52 UTC  

frequent attacks are more scary imo, never know when they finally step up their game

2018-10-27 01:56:58 UTC  

Yes, because they are motivated by politics

2018-10-27 01:57:15 UTC  

Apparently never tbh
@RekItRalph how do you know?

2018-10-27 01:57:18 UTC  

Does that mean Eric Clanton is a terrorist?

2018-10-27 01:57:31 UTC  

Or Cuck Norris?

2018-10-27 01:57:33 UTC  

Because that is literally the definition

2018-10-27 01:57:47 UTC  

If it was over something more petty they wouldn’t count it

2018-10-27 01:57:48 UTC  

2010, 8 deaths, 17 injured. 2 deaths and 13 injuries from a man who ran his plane into the IRS building and called them Big Brother. We'll give him to the right wing. 1 death and 2 injuries from John Patrick Bedell who shot up the pentagon, in a surprise visit from the left wing. 4 deaths and 2 injuries from sovereign citizens, who I don't think anyone claims.

2018-10-27 01:57:48 UTC  

>I know what someone thinks because of the definition of the accusation

2018-10-27 01:57:52 UTC  

Because if we have to count all the left wing assaults, then the numbers are going to flip.

2018-10-27 01:58:59 UTC  

I don’t know why you guys are fixated on death tolls. I’m simply stating the fact that 74% of insodences were from white extremists

2018-10-27 01:59:08 UTC  

Okay? Where's that list?

2018-10-27 01:59:12 UTC  

Death toll is a separate issue

2018-10-27 01:59:15 UTC  

leftists absolutely dominate in terms of property damage, but that's not counted as terrorism despite being political violence :^)

2018-10-27 01:59:24 UTC  

Death toll is the more important issue*

2018-10-27 01:59:27 UTC  

GTD my dude

2018-10-27 01:59:31 UTC  

GTD?

2018-10-27 01:59:34 UTC  

We dispute this number because it appears to us that you're creating arbitrary definitions to create the number.

2018-10-27 01:59:44 UTC  

74% of incidents is huuuge

2018-10-27 01:59:52 UTC  

downplaying that is just silly tbh

2018-10-27 02:00:00 UTC  

You want a big number, so you choose definitions of what is and is not an incident to create a big number.

2018-10-27 02:00:20 UTC  

Lies, damned lies, and statistics, as @Joe_Limon said

2018-10-27 02:00:24 UTC  

Now, now, we haven't looked at the data yet, let's not point fingers so early.

2018-10-27 02:00:40 UTC  

The definition is politically motivated violence. In this case, murder.

2018-10-27 02:00:49 UTC  

So it is death tolls?

2018-10-27 02:01:00 UTC  

If we included normal politically motivated violence then it would look more even

2018-10-27 02:01:20 UTC  

Death tolls are higher for Islam even post 9/11

2018-10-27 02:01:25 UTC  

Ok, so a death is required. Meaning the MAGAbomber doesn't count.

2018-10-27 02:01:38 UTC  

How do you measure if violence is politically motivated

2018-10-27 02:01:39 UTC  

What about premeditation?