It all depends on whether the American public will tolerate the pain

Hmm, like chemotherapy

Do you kill the cancer before you kill yourself

I guess we'll see.
Metals are the basis for heavy industry. So the side effect of the tarrifs is we get our own aluminum and steel production back
And we stave off globalist control over basic materials, and make China be more careful in some of their policies.
If they make us unhappy, we might be even tougher at the trade negotiation table.
It's genius.

We'll see

Things will get more expensive, likely more quickly than salaries

That's what is damaging.

Boo hoo.
So our already over self pleasuring civilization gets slightly less ikea furniture, and designer sneakers.
But our nation's ability to build things for ourselves gets stronger.
I think that's a decent trade off.

Possibly

There are some things we are just not in a good position to build ourselves

I'm in a good position to weather it

Just from the cost of shipping materials

But there are a lot of people who will be shocked, SHOCKED, at paying about $1500 more for their new 80" LED TV.

Rather than processing them on sight first

@Grenade123 why does anyone "need"an 80 inch tv?

Eh.

Amerifats are watching too much teeveez anyway.

That said, China is notorious for using subsidizes to fuck with market prices

They don't? I didn't make a comment about tvs

But we need cars, and cars are already too expensive

Yes. What China has done is take that "control means of production" mantra and supersize it.
They incentivize everyone to move production onto their soil.
If people don't get wise to this, they could end up being the only nation with a major ability to produce objects.
Not good.

@Grenade123 comment was tagged to the wrong person. My bad

Hence why I said China is notorious for using government government to mess with market prices.

Not saying the trade war is bad. But a war is a war. It's not just not being able to get a new 80" tv.

I don't think trade war with China is a bad thing.
We can last longer right now without their stuff, than they can without our demand.

It's not being able to afford to replace your car, leaving you without a way to get to work. It's small business being crushed because they can't get cheap enough steel to compete anymore.

No war is a guarantee win

And sometimes unavoidable

But there will be casualties, and by the end we may very well be left wondering if it was worth it

Hind sight is 20/20

20¢ a pound more for steel isn't gonna put a car buyer on a bicycle.
You'll keep your car longer before replacing it, or buy one with less gizmos in it.

I think this huge trade war alarmist stuff is basically globalists using media to scare ppl because this is lessening their control and profits

I'm just going to watch and see.

^

Not much choice in the matter

My area has a lot of steel and aluminum manufacturing and it has helped it grow a little bit considering it was shrinking due to those being the biggest employers

So I have a harder time saying it is bad and cars are already ridiculously expensive

Hey, do you guys think that this server is a bit of an echo chamber on its own?

possibly

for all the talk about people being in their own bubbles, we may very well be in our own bubble on this server

eh, there's a large variation in views
i've seen ppl speak from a left libertarian perspective, ppl defend left liberalism, various brands of right-wingers, and a couple of neonazi conspiracy nutters