Message from @Grenade123

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2018-10-28 18:53:30 UTC  

Basically

2018-10-28 18:53:52 UTC  

At least with companies I have the option not to use them

2018-10-28 18:55:29 UTC  

But I dislike the flip flop of calling for regulation. "Oh, if a baker won't make you a cake, open your own bakery"

2018-10-28 18:56:03 UTC  

"Twitter won't let me on their platform! I demand to be let on their platform!"

2018-10-28 18:57:00 UTC  

Government regulation got us here, and you want to regulate us out of it. Then bitch when the left does the same shit.

2018-10-28 19:07:58 UTC  

^^

2018-10-28 19:08:40 UTC  

Beautifully said

2018-10-28 19:11:41 UTC  

well, the alternative to twitter is not likely to survive the week. it is being kicked off its host later today, and has lost both payment processors.

2018-10-28 19:16:20 UTC  

saying the invisible hand of the free market will fix this problem is making the presumption that there is a free market. but it appears the barriers to entry are very high and that other actors within the market are colluding. moreover, the concept of a free market assumes rational actors seeking profit. that doesn't appear to be the case here, as profit is being forgone for ideological reasons.

2018-10-28 19:21:02 UTC  

@Atkins you fail to get my point. I don't care if Twitter would end up sued to death if you removed it's protection. I don't care if gab is dead if Twitter dies to. I know this is strange for people these days but we got along just fine before Twitter. And I don't think Twitter is even a net good for communication

2018-10-28 19:21:41 UTC  

who are you to tell people how they can and cannot communicate?

2018-10-28 19:27:55 UTC  

I wouldn't be telling anyone anything

2018-10-28 19:28:09 UTC  

I'd let people make their pleasure or displeasure known and felt

2018-10-28 19:29:34 UTC  

you are advocating for a policy that would destroy the ability of social media to exist, and you know it. you just said you don't care.

2018-10-28 19:30:37 UTC  

without protection from liability for the posts made by their users, social media sites could not exist. they would be sued into oblivion. you know this.

2018-10-28 19:31:06 UTC  

and you are OK with it because you personally don't like certain platforms.

2018-10-28 19:31:10 UTC  

You miss the point where I said I am for updating the old platform protection so that if social media doesn't curate, it is protected

2018-10-28 19:31:44 UTC  

who defines what qualifies as curation?

2018-10-28 19:32:06 UTC  

What publishers do

2018-10-28 19:32:19 UTC  

Decide what can and cannot be written

2018-10-28 19:32:35 UTC  

Decide what writers on their staff can and cannot say

2018-10-28 19:33:02 UTC  

They do that, they can get sued for what their writers write.

2018-10-28 19:33:03 UTC  

ok, what if i want to tell everyone on the platform about big dick energy pills that'll give you rock hard erections for hours. only $99.99

2018-10-28 19:33:15 UTC  

There's already something like this and it's a problem

2018-10-28 19:33:26 UTC  

Then you sue the person, not the platform

2018-10-28 19:33:27 UTC  

yeah, but under your policy it would be protected.

2018-10-28 19:33:39 UTC  

No, the platform would be

2018-10-28 19:33:45 UTC  

If you want to remain e.g. kid-friendly, you have to buy into a whole lot of baggage

2018-10-28 19:33:47 UTC  

you can't sue someone for wanting to give you massive boners all night long

2018-10-28 19:34:13 UTC  

Then too bad, if it's lawful speech, it's allowed

2018-10-28 19:34:28 UTC  

It means that if you try _any_ kind of moderation, you're on the hook for all content

2018-10-28 19:34:33 UTC  

the end result of that chain of logic is /b/

2018-10-28 19:34:41 UTC  

which barely survives

2018-10-28 19:35:02 UTC  

Porn laws might make something like that unlawful speech without some kinds of protection

2018-10-28 19:35:07 UTC  

on the edge of bankruptcy and federal seizure

2018-10-28 19:35:28 UTC  

what porn laws?

2018-10-28 19:36:13 UTC  

Those that require porn sites to have the 18 and over check box

2018-10-28 19:36:42 UTC  

i've seen viagra and cialis commercials on TV.

2018-10-28 19:36:52 UTC  

perfectly family friendly

2018-10-28 19:36:55 UTC  

Okay, why can't they be on social media?

2018-10-28 19:37:24 UTC  

why indeed? we can have every second reply to every post be about big dick energy that'll make your woman swoon