Message from @Grenade123

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2018-10-28 18:35:06 UTC  

By then it's too late.

2018-10-28 18:35:38 UTC  

And if you want to play the "Republican Super PAC" card, remember the Dems have way more money. You'd need to include that too if you want to pull parties into it.

2018-10-28 18:36:22 UTC  

Yes, and they would all be suing Twitter

2018-10-28 18:36:33 UTC  

Killing it

2018-10-28 18:36:56 UTC  

Or, Twitter goes hands off, and they can't sue

2018-10-28 18:37:01 UTC  

You and Beemann both somehow believe simultaneously that "removing section 230 would kill social media" and yet "people would make alternatives" despite Gab getting harrassed to hell and back and the SPLC literally being created to sue organizations it doesn't like out of existence.

2018-10-28 18:37:11 UTC  

It's not just Twitter though. It's your fabled alternatives.

2018-10-28 18:37:28 UTC  

And twitter wouldn't really have the option to go hands off if they lack any protections.

2018-10-28 18:38:57 UTC  

I'm done. I have stuff to do and I don't feel like arguing with an anvil anymore.

2018-10-28 18:39:43 UTC  

They won't lack protection. Now, the old law protecting platforms might need to be updated so the wording covers social media. But it's the same protection keeping you from suing library for mein Kampf

2018-10-28 18:41:13 UTC  

It's the same protection 230 extended to platforms that censor

2018-10-28 18:41:54 UTC  

And I'm saying that won't be nearly enough. And remember which one of us made excuses when someone asked about section 230 earlier.

2018-10-28 18:42:34 UTC  

Sorry, I should go. But you and Beemann can drive me nuts in how repetitive and inflexible you guys are.

2018-10-28 18:42:42 UTC  

I'm still walking around NYC

2018-10-28 18:42:52 UTC  

Hence why I'm disappearing

2018-10-28 18:43:43 UTC  

You and Beemann are hilariously naive on this. We went over this earlier. You haven't rebutted anything.

2018-10-28 18:48:29 UTC  

You have a hilarious trust in the ability for government to pass effective regulation.

2018-10-28 18:49:41 UTC  

It's like trusting the EU to pass something that didn't take away your freedoms

2018-10-28 18:51:55 UTC  

Ah, the old game of "who's going to screw us over more?"

2018-10-28 18:53:30 UTC  

Basically

2018-10-28 18:53:52 UTC  

At least with companies I have the option not to use them

2018-10-28 18:55:29 UTC  

But I dislike the flip flop of calling for regulation. "Oh, if a baker won't make you a cake, open your own bakery"

2018-10-28 18:56:03 UTC  

"Twitter won't let me on their platform! I demand to be let on their platform!"

2018-10-28 18:57:00 UTC  

Government regulation got us here, and you want to regulate us out of it. Then bitch when the left does the same shit.

2018-10-28 19:07:58 UTC  

^^

2018-10-28 19:08:40 UTC  

Beautifully said

2018-10-28 19:11:41 UTC  

well, the alternative to twitter is not likely to survive the week. it is being kicked off its host later today, and has lost both payment processors.

2018-10-28 19:16:20 UTC  

saying the invisible hand of the free market will fix this problem is making the presumption that there is a free market. but it appears the barriers to entry are very high and that other actors within the market are colluding. moreover, the concept of a free market assumes rational actors seeking profit. that doesn't appear to be the case here, as profit is being forgone for ideological reasons.

2018-10-28 19:21:02 UTC  

@Atkins you fail to get my point. I don't care if Twitter would end up sued to death if you removed it's protection. I don't care if gab is dead if Twitter dies to. I know this is strange for people these days but we got along just fine before Twitter. And I don't think Twitter is even a net good for communication

2018-10-28 19:21:41 UTC  

who are you to tell people how they can and cannot communicate?

2018-10-28 19:27:55 UTC  

I wouldn't be telling anyone anything

2018-10-28 19:28:09 UTC  

I'd let people make their pleasure or displeasure known and felt

2018-10-28 19:29:34 UTC  

you are advocating for a policy that would destroy the ability of social media to exist, and you know it. you just said you don't care.

2018-10-28 19:30:37 UTC  

without protection from liability for the posts made by their users, social media sites could not exist. they would be sued into oblivion. you know this.

2018-10-28 19:31:06 UTC  

and you are OK with it because you personally don't like certain platforms.

2018-10-28 19:31:10 UTC  

You miss the point where I said I am for updating the old platform protection so that if social media doesn't curate, it is protected

2018-10-28 19:31:44 UTC  

who defines what qualifies as curation?

2018-10-28 19:32:06 UTC  

What publishers do

2018-10-28 19:32:19 UTC  

Decide what can and cannot be written

2018-10-28 19:32:35 UTC  

Decide what writers on their staff can and cannot say

2018-10-28 19:33:02 UTC  

They do that, they can get sued for what their writers write.