Message from @Grenade123

Discord ID: 506189468512813058


2018-10-28 19:31:10 UTC  

You miss the point where I said I am for updating the old platform protection so that if social media doesn't curate, it is protected

2018-10-28 19:31:44 UTC  

who defines what qualifies as curation?

2018-10-28 19:32:06 UTC  

What publishers do

2018-10-28 19:32:19 UTC  

Decide what can and cannot be written

2018-10-28 19:32:35 UTC  

Decide what writers on their staff can and cannot say

2018-10-28 19:33:02 UTC  

They do that, they can get sued for what their writers write.

2018-10-28 19:33:03 UTC  

ok, what if i want to tell everyone on the platform about big dick energy pills that'll give you rock hard erections for hours. only $99.99

2018-10-28 19:33:15 UTC  

There's already something like this and it's a problem

2018-10-28 19:33:26 UTC  

Then you sue the person, not the platform

2018-10-28 19:33:27 UTC  

yeah, but under your policy it would be protected.

2018-10-28 19:33:39 UTC  

No, the platform would be

2018-10-28 19:33:45 UTC  

If you want to remain e.g. kid-friendly, you have to buy into a whole lot of baggage

2018-10-28 19:33:47 UTC  

you can't sue someone for wanting to give you massive boners all night long

2018-10-28 19:34:13 UTC  

Then too bad, if it's lawful speech, it's allowed

2018-10-28 19:34:28 UTC  

It means that if you try _any_ kind of moderation, you're on the hook for all content

2018-10-28 19:34:33 UTC  

the end result of that chain of logic is /b/

2018-10-28 19:34:41 UTC  

which barely survives

2018-10-28 19:35:02 UTC  

Porn laws might make something like that unlawful speech without some kinds of protection

2018-10-28 19:35:07 UTC  

on the edge of bankruptcy and federal seizure

2018-10-28 19:35:28 UTC  

what porn laws?

2018-10-28 19:36:13 UTC  

Those that require porn sites to have the 18 and over check box

2018-10-28 19:36:42 UTC  

i've seen viagra and cialis commercials on TV.

2018-10-28 19:36:52 UTC  

perfectly family friendly

2018-10-28 19:36:55 UTC  

Okay, why can't they be on social media?

2018-10-28 19:37:24 UTC  

why indeed? we can have every second reply to every post be about big dick energy that'll make your woman swoon

2018-10-28 19:37:52 UTC  

We could. We could have bots. How do you prove an account is a bot?

2018-10-28 19:37:53 UTC  

i constantly receive messages from helpful people telling me about 7 ways to DESTROY toenail fungus

2018-10-28 19:38:34 UTC  

i'm trying to say that there are lots and lots (and *lots*) of unforeseen consequences to your approach.

2018-10-28 19:38:38 UTC  

If we allow them to ban people who are spamming, then we allow them to ban anyone they don't like.

2018-10-28 19:39:06 UTC  

whereas if we just try to boot companies in the dick for colluding to squash competitors, we don't have to upset the current balance.

2018-10-28 19:39:42 UTC  

Because what is the difference between someone standing outside trump tower repeating orange man bad and someone spamming that on social media?

2018-10-28 19:40:14 UTC  

spam is automated and outnumbers humans in volume.

2018-10-28 19:40:16 UTC  

Social media involve using someone else's resources to do your shouting

2018-10-28 19:40:41 UTC  

Okay, so then we agree Twitter can keep on doing what it is doing

2018-10-28 19:40:57 UTC  

I mean, who are we to force them to host someone they don't want?

2018-10-28 19:41:19 UTC  

Megaphones help boost speech too, should megaphone companies be forced to give them for free?

2018-10-28 19:41:40 UTC  

IMO the way forward is technological

2018-10-28 19:41:53 UTC  

Things like Minds that are by-design censorship-resistant

2018-10-28 19:42:10 UTC  

Or where even the platform holders can't see what's going on without user assistance

2018-10-28 19:42:14 UTC  

I would agree there

2018-10-28 19:42:30 UTC  

Although that has some way to go still