@methdragon so what are you trying to say with regards to diversity and nationalism?

Taking pride in your country and trying to preserve it's cultures is ok

no

so now if someone is opposed to progressivism, they are an ethno-nationalist who should be thrown in jail? i think i'm being confused by layers of sarcasm here.

@Atkins I don't think I ever mentioned "should"s or "jail"

so... no?

The increase in those tensions is simply fact, it takes generations of willing people to integrate into a society, and allowing those issues to rise will be the downfall of actual community

I meant to say if a country is diverse let's say like America and they don't want to have a lot of immigrants I think it's ok

@PerformedShelf I never said it was unjustified or malicious ethno-nationalism, but it simply is.

methdragon did

@methdragon yeah, that's stupid

if you oppose trying to mix people who want to throw Gays off rooftops with people who support gay marriage, without making them all obey a law that says "don't throw people off rooftops", you are now a ethno-nationalist?

It is not ethno-nationalism, because you are not against the immigration that has already occurred, etho-nationalisation would be to remove by force those who are not of a particular nationalyity

@Grenade123 I'm not sure what you're trying to say; I couldn't even parse that message. Could you say it more simply? I'm small brained.

The reason why I am saying is because America as a country values individualism highly and any society that doesn't follow it will not be compatibile and that's it's ok to restrict immigrants

@PerformedShelf I don't think so, it's a different level of ethno-nationalism but still a similar ideal

@methdragon yeah, that's a pretty shit idea in my opinion

How so?

well, for example, the US is an unfounded colonial state in the first place, and thus should be abolished and have no power over who passes through the region or not

You're clearly wrong on that point, an ethno-state is a country with one ethnicity, hence the Aryan race that Hitler wanted to establish as the ruling and rightful ethinicity of Germany. A multi-ethnic country cannot be an ethno-state, and its people cannot be ethno-nationalists

thank christ none of yall will ever have any power

Then this kind of logic should be applied to every country in the world

@methdragon Yes

Do you any country formed peacefully

@methdragon No, all states are unfounded

We should just go back 500 years

Why do you think so?

Because

The concept of US is like you said formed under colonisation

You can't unravel it

@PerformedShelf I think it's reasonable to say "non-retroactive" ethno-nationalism is still that, but I get what you're saying that it's a different phenomenon

@methdragon I'm not really sure what you're trying to say.

You are navigating the sea of history with a moral compass that you obtained today

I am trying to say that is not valid solution or an argument

It has nothing to do with ethno-nationalism, and you're refusing to budge on the idea that those who arent against rampant unchecked immigration arent actually racist xenophobic ethno-nationalists

Stating that all modern societies are unfounded and evil is not a valid solution to the argument?

i think that's a great solution

How would you go back?

@methdragon who said anything about going back?

@PerformedShelf I would say that based on how I define the word, I probably wouldn't budge on that lol; ethno-nationalism is the idea that nations should restrict who is allowed to enter the nation based on race or origin, which fits what you're saying

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>well, for example, the US is an unfounded colonial state in the first place, and thus should be abolished and have no power over who passes through the region or not