Message from @Existence is identity

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2018-10-31 17:36:51 UTC  

those are the logical extremes

2018-10-31 17:37:05 UTC  

Conservatives and left do tolerate each other

2018-10-31 17:37:48 UTC  

the right will be similar to germany and the left russia

2018-10-31 17:38:05 UTC  

with time ofc

2018-10-31 17:38:14 UTC  

I dont understand whats being argued

2018-10-31 17:38:21 UTC  

In what way are you asserting that they're similar

2018-10-31 17:38:24 UTC  

no hes just jerking me off

2018-10-31 17:38:37 UTC  

yeah philosophically they are similar

2018-10-31 17:39:04 UTC  

```@Stefan Payne the best type of aid is ideas```
Exactly! And the people need to want the idas and changes. And I don't really see that in Africa...

Just a thing to think about:
In the 1950 the GDP of Kenya was superior to that of (South) Korea.
Today South Korea is far superior to Kenya. Why is that? The only conclusion is that it is because of the people., And that is a "Resource" that is grossly underestimated.

2018-10-31 17:39:36 UTC  

@Stefan Payne the closer people get to reason the more they prosper

2018-10-31 17:39:57 UTC  

look the west once we took Aristotles rational egoism and laws of logic

2018-10-31 17:41:52 UTC  

```Far-right and the far-left are the same```
The ideas are different, the outcome and forms of gouvernment are the same.
Just look at the Institutions of Nazi Germany and the Communist East Germany. You'll find many similaritys. And the commies had not less deaths due to the gouvernment than the Nazis, just the cause was different.

BUT: The holodomor was IMO more evil than the working camps of Nazi Germany.
Just imagine that you'll be shot because you eat grains that you collected, while already starving. Is there anything more evil than shooting a starving person that is trying his/her best to survive??

2018-10-31 17:42:27 UTC  

communism is just more altruisitic

2018-10-31 17:42:42 UTC  

anything anyone does for their benefit is evil

2018-10-31 17:42:59 UTC  

a man robbing a bank and a millionaire are both as evil in their eyes

2018-10-31 17:43:03 UTC  

Ah yes, being forced to share is altruistic

2018-10-31 17:43:56 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 the only reasons they are being forced to share is because of the prevalent philosophy

2018-10-31 17:44:21 UTC  

personally nazis are more individualistic but that quickly changes with time

2018-10-31 17:44:47 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 living for others is evil

2018-10-31 17:46:36 UTC  

@Stefan Payne look at china as soon as it started to embrace western values its quality of life raised from people starving all the time to what it is now

2018-10-31 17:46:42 UTC  

its not perfect of course

2018-10-31 18:05:27 UTC  

sargon is retarded change my mind

2018-10-31 18:08:04 UTC  

>prove a negative

2018-10-31 18:09:10 UTC  

@Blackhawk342 hes extremely inconsistent and hops between individualism and collectivism whenever he is challenged

2018-10-31 18:10:09 UTC  

he also calls for government regulation when he says he wants property rights to be protected

2018-10-31 18:14:56 UTC  

>collectivism
When?
>government regulation
Government's purpose is to protect private property

2018-10-31 18:15:20 UTC  

@Beemann no he called for regulating facebook

2018-10-31 18:15:34 UTC  

let me find the video again

2018-10-31 18:15:47 UTC  

no need i know he did

2018-10-31 18:16:01 UTC  

That's because people feel social media is becoming an Oligopoly

2018-10-31 18:16:10 UTC  

The social media isnt the issue

2018-10-31 18:16:20 UTC  

I disagree with their line of reasoning, but that doesn't make it stupid

2018-10-31 18:16:21 UTC  

there are already alternatives growing

2018-10-31 18:16:22 UTC  

@Beemann its till inconsistent

2018-10-31 18:16:38 UTC  

freedom of association of your property trumps speech

2018-10-31 18:16:42 UTC  

Anti trust laws are not outside the purview of classical liberalism

2018-10-31 18:16:52 UTC  

the real problem is the backbone behind the internet, payment processors and infrastructure coming after new platforms.

2018-10-31 18:16:58 UTC  

politics gey

2018-10-31 18:17:22 UTC  

political ideologies are really vague

2018-10-31 18:17:31 UTC  

you can make your own sites, but you cant just make your own infrastructure

2018-10-31 18:18:01 UTC  

imagine cable coming into your house