I don't understand. Do we not prosecute foreign nationals for crimes done to American people or property?

And a treaty, as ratified by the Senate, becomes part of the constitution

there is no problem. you are creating the problem through needless legalese.

@DrYuriMom What do you say about the Children born by Diplomats in the US?
If we follow your logic, they should be US Citizens, right?

they are not citizens. they are not residents. they are not tourists. they are not natives. they have no legal status, except as fucking invaders.

would you think it rational to either a) put a viking raider on trial or b) give them immunity? no. you'd just kill them or drive them off and have done with it.

No, Stefan. Diplomat children are specifically the *only* children not covered by the 14th

```there is no problem. you are creating the problem through needless legalese.```
There is a Problem. When you take the "are Indians White" Case, it would mean that the Citzienship of all illegaly born here could be revoked, wich means that tens of millions of people could be deportet and loose their Citizenship. that IS a Problem.

And foreigners, even with your current comma quibble.

that's not a problem to me

```No, Stefan. Diplomat children are specifically the only children not covered by the 14th```
And why is there a difference in your argument between Diplomats and Illegal Aliens?
Both are not considered to be residents of the US.

Unless *all* the commas are wrong.

if your parents stole something and gave it to you, you don't get to keep it.

Atkins, my ancestors came to Virginia in the 1640s. They didn't have a visa. So I'm an illegal?

right of conquest

Uh huh

Speaking of stealing

and unless you want to grant right of conquest to the entire god damned planet maybe we shouldn't lose like the natives did

Then perhaps we need to pass another amendment

Cat, it's highly disingenuous to compare the incredibly decentralized and in feuding Native American tribes to the United States government.

I didn't

Then I don't understand. Why do you contest the legality of your citizenship?

Stefan, diplomats are not subject to US laws. That are not in our jurisdiction.

I don't contest the legality of my citizenship. Under the 14th I was born here. I'm a citizen.

Were your parents United States citizens?

Yes. And going back to the 1640's I can trace my ancestry in Virgina.

Watch the god damn video, Cat!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHNp8MAaNBM

Okay. So then it doesn't even involve the 14th amendment, Cat.

He did an analysis and cites everything you need to know.

I'd have to look up the specific law, but it's much older.

But if you take the 14th away, how far back do you go?

The...first generation back?

you don't go back, you go forward

Your parents.

@DrYuriMom where exactly in 14th admentment it says that illegal aliens kids should get citizenship?

anyone being born from now on, must be a us citizen first

But what if my parents' parents were illegal?

Jasse, anyone under US jurisdiction and born here is a citizen

It's black and white to me and to 150 years of jurisprudence

I wasnt asking that.
I was asking where in 14th it says it?

the part where it says us jurisdiction