Message from @DrWittMDPhD
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Will we all have to go scouring courthouses for old birth and death records?
But Stefan, how far back do you go?
In fact, no. The bureaucracy, bloated as it might be, can probably do some primitive work in trimming down the people they need to check.
That's for *CONGRESS* to decide.
What if you find you can't prove your own right to be here?
Where is the burden of proof?
if CONGRESS don't to the beginning.
I don't think Stefan has a right to be here at all.
And we talked about this, Cat.
I guess I should buy stock in genealogy companies because they may be about to see exploding business by people who have to go to the 1780's to prove they belong here
And Trump can say that its the Dems fault for blocking this thing.
just stopping future anchor babies is sufficient.
Sufficient isn't the same as ideal, though.
removes a lot of the motivation for illegal immigration. enforcement of existing laws and construction of the wall handles the rest.
i think we're way, way, WAY past ideal here. we're doing triage.
Depends on if Trump wants a Power Play and rekt the Dems or not. And thus he can deport them all and/or use that as a leverage thingy.
trying to save the US from collapse. ideal is not on the table.
And I'd say that he will use it to show them who's boss and that the Dems are not with Immigrants
What the fuck? Stop smoking crack guys, If BR Citizenship is revoked every current citizen will be grandfathered in
All I can see coming from this is suspicion about the legitimacy of every brown person.
That's conspiracy talk
I'm just trying to reason out next steps
There will be Violence either way, when it is revoked because the Hard Lefties will go insane.
just stop future anchor babies. no need to go revoking citizenship.
There are no next steps here
Yes, but remember how you felt after election day 2016, cat.
Our fears often far outstrip reality.
You;re making a mountain out of a mole hill
I haven't thought enough about it to make a conspiracy. Honestly, I never even imagined this discussion would ever be a thing.
The joys of a recalibrating Overton window.
I'd say that Trump will at least deoport everyone up to 5 or 10 years and then use the rest as leverage
But leverage could be most of the population
What dystopian hellscape do you live in @Stefan Payne?
you never imagined this discussion would ever be a thing because until two years ago your side was winning everything everywhere and immigration to democrats is an unalloyed positive. more imported voters, driving down wages for services they consume.
@DrWittMDPhD has his points, don't over reach the issue, we will take the easier route, and brimstone when brimstone comes until then just do the best you can please.
cheaper avocados and more middle americans dead of despair.
I mean seriously, how many people are prepared to prove their genealogy? It reminds me of nations where you had to prove you didn;t have Jewish ancestry. And yes, you can say i just broke Godwin's law but I think the analogy is accurate.
@DrYuriMom No one will have to prove shit
No one cause that's actually batshit, cat
you are forget that we have the assumption of innocence